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Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwmkymt wrote
Hot take. Don’t buy these. Sure they are REALLY good sounding and resolving more than other headphones if these are your first real audiophile cans but they don’t have significant base if you listen to EDM, rap, R&B, or other bass requiring genres. They have almost zero soundstage and the imaging is murky at best. These were my first nice headphones and while again, they sound super nice, I began to realize how much they were lacking because the bass and soundstage are big componentes of music that I can’t be without and feel happy about my purchase or listening experience.
Kirei13 t1_iwmn6vb wrote
That's an issue with not doing any research on sound signatures, not a problem with the headphones themselves. People buy the HD 6xx for the tuning, comfort, durability and how good their vocals sound. Nobody buys them for their bass for EDM.
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnuc4o wrote
They aren't that good even for the price for vocals. They are pretty grainy unless you have a totl speaker amp sitting around in vocals and always present them in this odd way where dead center of the center blob is less loud than it's edges, giving a "behind a box" feel to the vocalist.
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwmr8qu wrote
Oh I know, but mind you before headphones got really popular like they have people were still actually saying how the bass on 650’s was still good for those genres and people said this just isn’t a headphone for BASSheads. As if wanting a headphone that can produce deep bass makes someone a basshead, as opposed to wanting the bass over pronounced for fun. It just wasn’t accurate advice from the community back then and you can’t get information on soundstage or imagining in a sound signature curve (or whatever that response curve thing is called). People talk about how great the headphone is at what it does but its really made clear about what it can’t do. At least back when I was buying headphones in like 2015. Its a great can for what it does I just didn’t want someone to regret their first high end purchase for a can that can’t do it all regardless of how well.
SteveThePirate_69 t1_iwn1fzu wrote
This is all highly subjective. For me, there's more than enough bass, and too much if I use EQ. The soundstage is as good as any headphone under 300$ that I've ever heard, and its detail is higher than any other 300$ headphone I've heard, by far.
sic_erat_scriptum t1_iwmz0hb wrote
Nah they sound fine with any genre of music, and soundstage is a meme, a tonally correct frequency response will have a small perceived soundstage with most stereo recorded music.
akeep113 t1_iwnbk5p wrote
you should have said dont buy these IF you only listen to electronic/rap. for other genres they are great
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwoqsyq wrote
I acknowledge that they are great for other genres.
thebrieze t1_iwmm7ox wrote
So what would you recommend?
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iwmq7x5 wrote
Honestly I’ve been out of the headphone game cuz I’m broke and haven’t been able to try more. I’d recommend some HiFiman cans but I don’t trust their QC since so many of them brake. I’m not really sure what a good TRUE all rounder headphone is at a $200 price point. I’ve been out of the game for a while but I know that for me, these ain’t it.
Historical-Arm-9756 t1_iwnu5ew wrote
Yea, they get all round beat out by stuff like the 400se at half the price. They are just bad.
Will_Poke_Brains t1_iworf7v wrote
I won’t say they’re bad, there just really lacking. Although that would make them bad if their shortcomings ruin it for ya so yeah. I haven’t tried the 400se maybe I’ll check out a used pair or something.
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