I_Dont_Have_A_Name13 OP t1_ixyeozc wrote on November 27, 2022 at 10:10 AM

I bought them because I wanted to make better mixes, and my first mix after I bought was my best mix ever, so I’m not going to return them. I am going to probably buy an amp later on though to see if that makes a big difference with sound. I have it hooked up to my PC and only my PC right now, and it’s not too quiet, but it just sounds a bit weird and the only way I could describe that was “muddy”.

Thank you for everyone trying to help

StanGenchev t1_ixyl1iu wrote on November 27, 2022 at 11:42 AM

You don't necessarily need an external amp, the one built-in into your PC may be enough, depending on what motherboard you have. A lot of modern laptops, desktops and phones have plenty of power to drive the HD 600 just fine. The more likely suspect here is that you may have some "audio enhancement" bloatware installed like MaxxAudio and it's applying some EQ profile automatically. See if there is anything like that installed. Another reason may be that you are simply not used to them. When you have two pairs of headphones that have a very different sound signature, there's going to be an adjustment period after going from one to the other. The third option is that you may not like how the HD 600 sounds and that's fine. If you still don't like them after a few days of use and you need headphones which you can use for mixing, then consider returning them and getting the HD 560S instead.

ComedianAcceptable32 t1_ixzmkjb wrote on November 27, 2022 at 5:14 PM

This is good advice here. I don't really get all of the assumption that the HD600 are hard to drive. I've used them on many sources, ranging from a 2022 MacBook Pro (which has high impedance headphone support) to random dongle that came with my Lenovo tablet. They sound fine and approximately the same on all of them, modulo difference in the DAC source itself. Unless I want to do some crazy +10dB EQ, or play it above ~90dB does the source matter (they sound good from the MacBook and obvious clipping on anything else).

I understand not wanting to spend more on headphones and amps, and I am in that same boat. With the HD600 you honestly don't need to.

StanGenchev t1_ixzo6cp wrote on November 27, 2022 at 5:25 PM

>I don't really get all of the assumption that the HD600 are hard to drive.

Because they were ...once upon a time.

The HD 600 was released all the way back in 1997 and at that time, many computers didn't have any built-in audio. Those which did, usually had something that was awful and was barely enough to power off-the-shelf 16/32 ohm, 100+ db/mW headphones. Back in those days, you really needed an external audio card or at least an amp in order to get the HD 600 to a decent volume level without any distortion and ground noise from the spinning hard drives. Audio has come a long way since then but the idea that the HD 600 are "hard to drive, you need a powerful amp" has stuck around and many are unfortunately just repeating it over and over.

ComedianAcceptable32 t1_ixznapq wrote on November 27, 2022 at 5:19 PM

Oh and for reference, I also have Airpod Pros, 1st gen. The HD600 should sound pretty similar to me, though more accurate. Better bass and treble extension than the Airpods, but not a huge difference. If you find they sound quite a bit different, you should check any sound effects being applied, and also try a different source.

I_Dont_Have_A_Name13 OP t1_ixzsjy3 wrote on November 27, 2022 at 5:55 PM

Tyvm for your help. I don't think I have any audio enhancement software installed, I'll check again though. I think it's just the fact that I'm not used to them, I'll see if I still think they sound weid after a week.

Thank you