mmm bro the salnotes zero, chu, cadenza etc. literally costs less (?) what you don't understand of what i'm trying to say is the t2 were considered the best for its price a couple years ago, but today, 20$ IEMs are better than what it was a couple years ago, even better than the t2. so don't think too shallow and think that we want the newest things with the highest cost, it may be just you that think that way.