[deleted] t1_j1kq12w wrote on December 25, 2022 at 3:50 AM

Reply to comment by KiyPhi in Planars on speaker amps (HE-6, LCD-4, HEKv1) by Svstem

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KiyPhi t1_j1kqmoz wrote on December 25, 2022 at 3:56 AM

>How about this: there is audible distortion when an amp is being asked to drive a load beyond its ability. There are headphones that are beyond the ability of many amps. You will not see this on a sine wave sweep, but it’s clear as day with a real input signal.

But you literally do see this with a sine sweep? Though they tend to pick one signal and increase the power of that signal until it clips.

Do you understand how testing for max power before clipping works? If not, I can probably find a resource for you to learn. The way headphone amps are tested is pretty cool.

The amount of power a headphone amp outputs before this is what results in how loud it can drive a headphone. All of what you are talking about is already taken into account when I talk about two amps being set to a specific voltage output. It was what I was referring to when I said the advantage is loudness but I don't listen that loud. A JDS Atom can handle ~7v before clipping, maybe a little more if you allow for 1% distortion. That is 104dB on the HE-6. I don't listen that loud ever.

[deleted] t1_j1ksd5d wrote on December 25, 2022 at 4:13 AM

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KiyPhi t1_j1ksku9 wrote on December 25, 2022 at 4:15 AM

My part of the post where I stated that you'd need to be able to explain your stance was to avoid people who spout this and that with no substance. We don't have a conversation and your derogatory attitude is not helping.

[deleted] t1_j1kt3og wrote on December 25, 2022 at 4:21 AM

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Western_Judgment_945 t1_j1lk8c3 wrote on December 25, 2022 at 10:33 AM

How is he being “derogatory “? By not agreeing with you? It’s his experience.

KiyPhi t1_j1lkjja wrote on December 25, 2022 at 10:38 AM

>Seems like people read ASR and think they’re automatically a genius that sees through the hifi BS, but if you actually just listen to the damn thing you’ll realize what a fool you are.

If that is an honest question, it is because this is assuming that I just read some ASR then think I am a genius when I am really a fool because I cannot hear what they hear despite not being able to show any counter evidence from what I showed as evidence that what they were saying was incorrect.

Also they are calling me a fool for not agreeing with them.

Derogatory is to take a disrespectful attitude, to disparage. It can also mean to try to detract from the standing of someone. Calling someone a fool for not agreeing with baseless claims is derogatory in both senses.

I reiterate, I am not saying these people aren't hearing what they think they are, I'm saying what they are hearing is not caused by what they are claiming and it is a different part of the processing chain. To prove otherwise, it needs to be properly tested. I have linked a video multiple times where one of the most expert persons discusses this very topic and why it is so important to make sure things are tested properly.

Western_Judgment_945 t1_j1nwo2j wrote on December 25, 2022 at 11:34 PM

Thanks Mr Webster. Now go read your dictionary and listen to your sine waves.

KiyPhi t1_j1nwuup wrote on December 25, 2022 at 11:36 PM

So what was the point of asking that question if all you were going to do was the same thing? I don't get what you intend to do with things like this. Just ignore it and move on with your day instead of acting in bad faith.