they are very comfortable and nice to touch. the extra impact added to bass and snares is also welcome.

The dekoni added more bass but too clampy from the 25mm thickness

Plus, you don't have to worry about the stock earpads soaking up oils and grime like a sponge, nor anymore of the "velour" layer flaking off anymore. :P

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I definitely want more clamp from my HD800, which practically falls off my head if tilt it in any way.

The Dekoni pads for the HD800 are the most comfortable for me in that regard, but the seal feels a bit weird with their foam choice. The sound also leaves something to be desired - I'm not a big fan of the Dekoni HD800 pads without DSP/EQ.

Seeing the thickness and softness of the HD800 sub pads in ZMF's videos, they seem to have done a really nice job and I'm excited that their fit might be the perfect middle ground for me.

As for sound, ZMF did very well with the 6XX sub pads, another headphone that is hard to get the aftermarket pads "right" on, so that gives me confidence they pulled it off with the HD800. I've been really enjoying the suede version on my 6XX.

All in all, I've ordered both types of pads, and I'm really looking forward to hearing (and feeling) what ZMF has to offer my HD800.

After wearing the ZMF for a few hours, it feel more snug than the velour but less clampy than deknoi. Its a great middle ground.

ZMF is 17mm thickness. Dekoni is 25mm. Ideally a leather with 14mm would be perfect for me.

FYI, Dekoni recently released a thinner version of the HD800 Elite Velour pads.

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So this is news to me.. The OEM earpads for $1500 headphones are these small Sony Walkman looking crap pads??

I've never seen these headphones in person (mostly because poor) but i would have thought they would have come with something a little more ｐｒｅｍｉｕｍ.

> I definitely want more clamp

Ditto. My main gripe with these cans is that they slide (and make a sound) when I move my head.

What makes a different material or thickness of pad more premium? Not trying to simp for the brand but the OEM pad was designed that way for a reason. Not saying that it sounds the best way possible with that pad and that it's sacrilegious to mess with it but other pads will sound different for better or worse depending on your taste. The OEM pad is how Sennheiser wanted it to sound/feel.

Sennheiser and velour are some magic though

I might have to try the ZMF velour. I bought lambskin pads from Amazon that are better padded and isolate better (more bass) than the stock velour, but I miss the velour fabric feel vs leather.

Amazon ones are too thick at 25mm.

to be fair, the alcantara pads for the HD800 (the stock pads) are amazing...They also give them the sound sennheiser wanted them to sound like, a few pads like eg dekoni are imo a bad match with the HD800 and I'd go stock pads with the HD800 any day. Still need to try the ZMF Pads.

I tried the ZMF Velour and they definitely make them sound slightly more anemic and distant because of the thicker pads compared to stock, the bass is just a tiny bit more recessed... definitely not my cup of tea.

To reitirate my other comment:

I tried the ZMF Velour and they definitely make them sound slightly more anemic and distant because of the thicker pads compared to stock, the bass is just a tiny bit more recessed... definitely not my cup of tea.

I was mostly talking about the looks, at least from the picture they look very cheaply made! However given the other replies on my post they are not cheap/they work as intended. I hope one day I would be able to afford a pair so I can eat my words lol