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it just arrived so i'm listening to it while writing this. the dual tuning is certainly interesting. the cable is okay, it has some memory to it but very very lightweight. when i put this on i don't feel like i am wearing anything.very very comfortable. it has no connection issue like the ie300 which is a big plus for something half the price of the ie300. this thing is so fun to listen to. overall very happy with it in my first impression.

edit: if you decide to swap out the tips, placing the tip for the second tuning option will be harder, the stock tips have something in it that hold the tip in place.

Do the tips have filters in them? I know the ie600 did and they altered the treble response. These look like the same tips so my money is on they do include filters.

These look like a great deal. I don't trust Moondroop and the other budget options with all the paint bubbling, face plates falling off and channel imbalance issues. I have more trust in Sennheiser tbh. Maybe I am just biased.

Is the cable at all microphonic, when you wear it underneath your T-shirt, whilst moving? I have been looking for an IEM to use whilst walking the dog, so I'd appreciate your help :)

yes they have filters on them

it has a microphonic effect on the cable. the top part of the cable that connects both iem has a very noticable micrpphonics effect bu the bottom part which is most likely underneath the shirt is not very noticable

Thanks, mate :)

I was hoping this cable might make a good replacement for the IE300/600/900 cable but apparently it won't be releasing separately until spring or summer. Sucks to hear it still has some memory issues and microphonics.

> edit: if you decide to swap out the tips, placing the tip for the second tuning option will be harder, the stock tips have something in it that hold the tip in place.

You can put some o-rings on the stem to keep eartips from sliding down to the other position. I've seen some people cut out the stems from other eartips and use that but o-rings are probably easier.

i'll take the microphonic everyday rather than the connection issue, which is still best of the worst. why can't sennheiser make a decent cable????

All their IEM's that I know of have the filter foam stuff inside but I think it's easy to remove. The IE600 stock eartips are junk anyway.

Luckily I've never had connection issues with the IE600 but the cable has microphonics and the ear hooks took a lot of bending to get them in a position I don't mind (still not great).

Tons of complaints on the HeadFi thread about the stock eartips and cable so it looked like they might fix things with the IE200, so it's unfortunate to hear they still couldn't get it right.

the cable on the ie200 is paper thin.

I got the 300 yesterday, and had connection issues until I reset the connection. Now it's fine, i may still swap them for the 200 though. I'm not sure yet.

What tips would you recommend for the 600s then? Just got a pair in as I wanted to try them, curious how much of a difference aftermarket options would make.

How do they compare to the IE 300? I just bought the IE 300 because they are at a reduced price but im having the connection issue you described. I like the performance of the IE 300 and was just wondering if it was worth it to trade them for IE 200.

This is a really helpful list, it's another rabbit hole to go down. It's most important they feel comfortable and seal well but you can tweak the tonality of the IEM a bit by tip rolling.

I use Final E tips because it tames the spicy treble a bit. Other than Final E, many people seem to like AZLA's (multiple models all a little different), Senn IE Pro tips, SpinFits (multiple models, W1 is the newest but may increase treble a bit), Spiral Dots, Spring Tips. The HeadFi IE600 thread has a lot of comments about different eartips.

You can get a lot of eartips off Ali Express for dirt cheap including popular brands if you don't mind the wait. Some like AZLA are expensive everywhere.

Are these compatible with any MMCX cable or still the ugly Fidelity+ MMCX?

in my experience albeit limited, you won't lose significant performance if you get the 200 rather than the 300. I have both and the 200 is more fun and smooth than the 300. the 300 can sound muffled at times. vocal sounds clearer on the 200. the 200 is much closer to the harman curve, with a sennheiser treble.

the ugly one :)

Are these with a standard mmcx connector? Also can you tell me what if your source?

My IE80 from 7 years ago, and every Sennheiser IEM I've owned since, had shit eartips, a mediocre cable, and proprietary connectors.

It's good they might be trying, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

How do these compare to the Z12

my source is apple dongle, qudelix 5k, zorloo zuper dac pro, and the fiio K7. they use the recessed connector.

Thanks mate. I’m eyeing the ie 200s but scared of connector issues.

they are competing for sure as they are in the same price bracket. I like the z12 but you can surely hear the planar metallic sound to it and the treble on the z12 is spicier than the ie200. I think sennheiser hit a sweet spot with this one, it can definitely compete with chi-fi iem in the same price bracket.

so far no connector issue for me.

How do they compare to your Z12s? I have the S12 Pros, which are very similar to the Z12s.

they are competing for sure as they are in the same price bracket. I like the z12 but you can surely hear the planar metallic sound to it sometimes and the treble on the z12 is spicier than the ie200. I think sennheiser hit a sweet spot with this one, it can definitely compete with chi-fi iem in the same price bracket.

oh, i didn't see the other comment asking the same thing, sorry lol

but that's great to hear. enjoy!

I have blue/red rings and use them to color code all my IEMs (because I'm lazy and can't be bothered to spend time determining which side goes into which ear).

I've never specifically used them to change the tuning, but I have done it to help with insertion depth (the ring keeps the tip from being pushed further on the nozzle, thus the tip seats further into the ear).

With a lot of my IEMs I put the rings such that they don't effect the tip's seating, but I may have to try this with my IE300's and see if I notice a change in sound. I just put a ring on and yes, it does work to change the seating position of the tip on the IE300's. The tip is held further out towards the end of the noozle and yet is still held in place by the retainer lip, so seems pretty darn secure (which might be an issue with some IEMs).

I haven't yet listened enough to compare the sound difference, but it's interesting that it's an option.

I just saw DMSs video on these. While I don’t trust his opinions that much, he seems to suggest that the tuning on these might be better than even the IE600 which was definitely high praise. @OP how do you compare these to your IE300? I already have the IE600, but I’m itching to get one out of curiosity….

i don't know about the IE600 but i can say that it punches above the IE300 for sure, espescially considering the price for it. ironically i bought the IE300 (new) cheaper than the IE200.

no problem.

I like to use custom tips like spinfits and Final. Does changing the tips make the sound worse?

If you are going to buy a new cable anyway I would recommend just getting one off of AliX instead of waiting for Sennheiser to release a good one

i got to say not really significant. i'd say just swap the tips out, i use the spinfits W1 myself.

You can use ptfe tapes instead

That's great to know. Never liked the stock tips on IE40 pro. But swapping them made the treble unbearable. Hope this isn't the case with the IE200.

if you use smaller bore eartips it will help with the treble

First I’m hearing of these. How is the bass ?

Is this the iem/headphone with the best vocals out if your collection? I have the er2se and the 560s but I still want more resolution. I got the 7hz Timeless but felt that the instrumentals were placed in front of the vocalist which made the mids sound overshadowed and muted. Would you consider the ie200 to have the best midrange. Also how does the technical performance compare to the ie300 and z12?

bass good :)

Try a bunch of different tips, the sound and comfort will be different in every pair of ears. I try many tips over several weeks and eventually settle on one, JVC Spiral Dots, Comply foam and Sony triple comfort are my most used. Almost all of the most popular and easily obtainable tips fit the Sennheiser IEMs, the absence of that foam insert in the core doesn't seem to make a discernable difference.

The Z12 have better vocals, but has a spicie treble. for technical performance, they are up to par, but for it's price the ie200 is better than the ie300. the ie200 and the z12 is really competing with each other. i really can't choose between the two, but for your money's worth, the z12 gives you much more. better cables and stock tips, the ie200 is very very lightweight and comfortable tho.

That dual tuning thing seems like a bullshit feature that occured to someone while putting the tips on, like marketing an earphone as noise cancelling just because it plugs the ear.

:)

In the case of IE40 pro the tips have tuning filters/foam inside of them that act as dampeners. Anything except those ruin the sound doesn't matter the bore size.

Case closed.

I feel like removing the filters is a bad idea.. do you not worry about dust/wax/misc junk getting into the drivers and ruining the sound?

has the same tips with the ie300 and also the ie600. it has a filter and foam filter too.

im really curious too as how these souls compared to the ie600 since im still in the return window for the the ie600 and although i only paid ~$500 it doesnt seem to be worth $500 imo being that they are really similarish to my 6xx although they are the size of a penny and sound similarish to my 6xx which is mind blowing

Are they better than the IE 300?

it is competing for sure.

the ie200 has an excellent price to performance ratio. i can't say anything about the ie600 because i haven't listened to it. maybe somebody else that has both can help you. there's a mini review on GizAudio comparing the two, maybe it can help you form a decision. good luck!

edit: spelling

technically the ie300 has dual tuning too as it has similar nozzle design and you can move the tips outward too.

I know, I think its a non feature.

Yeah I was curious because of the big price difference

i got my ie300 on sale cheaper than the ie200

Man, the Sennheiser stock tips are even worse than the S12? How's that possible?

ty. I see it’s possible to change the bass amount depending on how you put the ear tip on. have you tried that, if so what’s your experience

yes, moondrop's quality rather garbage compared to sennheiser

Danke sehr. Ich wohne in Indien aber nächte Monate komme ich in Deutschland. Mein erst verkauf ist ie 200 lol

I use Final type e tips on the 300s and 900s. They provide good seal and don't come off the nozzle.

Anyone tried exchanging IE200's cable with IE900???

I'm really curious about how that sounds😂

it will sound exactly the same

The foam filter I'm talking about is in the eartips, the IEM itself still has a grille and internal filter like this. There are many IEM's with more open ports if you're concerned about wax or debris getting in the IEM itself. You can take the foam out of the stock eartips though and put it in other ones but I don't know how well it would stay in. The Senn IE Pro eartips have foam filters in as well but don't have paper-thin silicone like the IE300/600/900 stock eartips (I think IE200 as well).

how's treble? i've seen people referring to them as smooth

so.....IE200 just gave an extra option for people who like twisted cable🤪

Can I ask what the connection issue is with IE300? Haven't read about it before, so just curious.