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Apprehensive-Ad6212 OP t1_j7fang8 wrote

King Christian IV of Denmark and Norway protested to the Swedish King, Charles IX, but his protests over the new route was ignored. Finally, in April 1611, in response to Sweden’s claim of a traditionally Norwegian area in Northern Norway, Denmark-Norway declared war upon Sweden and invaded.

A force of 6,000 Danish troops was sent to Kalmar to lay siege to the city and castle. .

The war was the result of ongoing disputes over trade routes, due to Denmark–Norway controlling a monopoly through the strait between the Baltic Sea and the North Sea.

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DrTonyTiger t1_j7gf4iv wrote

Also worth clarifying that Kalmar was close to the Danish border at that time. It was nowhere near the Nothern passage that was the nominal object of the dispute.

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left_at_read t1_j7gnujz wrote

So who won?

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banneryear1868 t1_j7h327y wrote

Dano-Norwegian Alliance "won" this dispute. Basically Sweden wanted to avoid paying Denmark's tolls for use of it's trade routes, they laid claim to a Norwegian territory and started collecting taxes there. Denmark-Norway actually teamed up with Sweden (Gustavo Adolphus) a few years later in the Thirty Years War, before returning to their rivalry shortly after.

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UglyTitties t1_j7he2wl wrote

It wasn't really an alliance, as Denmark and Norway at the time were united under the same crown, and thus basically were one country.

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banneryear1868 t1_j7hjgia wrote

Yeah there's just different names for that union depending on the time period, Danish-Norwegian is modern, but there was always a "two kingdoms under one crown" view of it, "Twin Kingdom" was one of the names for it at the time.

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Jeppep t1_j7m19z1 wrote

Also worth clarifying that Kalmar is still closer to Denmark than Norway.

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atulgupta411 t1_j7fgrhf wrote

So if I pull that out I'm king of Denmark?🤔

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AdVoke t1_j7fvw70 wrote

Well i guess you'll have to kill the crown Prince of DK and he has the Danish equivalent to a navy seal training. We call it frogman.

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dap00man t1_j7fjb12 wrote

Did Dr Seuss write that titley title from titleston?

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KinKaze t1_j7fl322 wrote

What are you even on about?

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Lich_Hegemon t1_j7fm2w4 wrote

"Archaeologists from Arkeologerna"

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Naqoy t1_j7fos3w wrote

> Tidigare utgjorde vi Riksantikvarieämbetets arkeologiska uppdragsverksamhet (UV) men den 1 januari 2015 flyttades verksamheten över till Statens historiska museer (SHMM) och bytte då namn till Arkeologerna. I Riksantikvarieämbetets regi har vi funnits sedan 1950-talet.

So the actual government entity that does field archeology on behalf of the national museums is called Arkeologerna since 2015.

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KinKaze t1_j7fmecm wrote

Oh I see, sorry for the tone I took.

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DJTilapia t1_j7gwcdi wrote

“...shows an evolutionary leap from a medieval sword to more modern designs that would eventually dominate the 17th century battlefield” is a bit hyped. While it's hard to say with the corrosion, it looks like a pretty normal sidesword, and those were numerous in the 16^th century. I suppose it's less common to find a Danish sword from this period, though.

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banneryear1868 t1_j7h4ha1 wrote

There was a lot of modernization on the battlefield at this point as well with cannons and other siege artillery, arquebusiers, pike and shot formations. Swords were starting to take on a more symbolic role as they were associated with "honorable" combat, I mean they were technically "used" until WW1 by some units and certain positions still carry swords, although now almost entirely symbolically.

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impossiblefork t1_j7hf7fz wrote

For our (Swedish) armies swords were among the primary weapons even after this period, even into the 1700eds since they used shock tactics involving infantry charges after a short-range volley.

Gustavus Adolphus introduced some of this in the decade after this war.

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banneryear1868 t1_j7ib7hk wrote

Oh yeah swords we're totally still used at this time, but technology was advancing and Aldolphus (badass) was one of the first to switch things up successfully. Apparently some of his tactics developed in the Thirty Years War were borrowed in to the 19th century.

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Dlatrex t1_j7i5pmw wrote

With just one picture to go from this particular example looks like a “crab hilted” styled side sword as were popular on Italian made swords in the late 16th-early 17th century.

example with a sail guard also

Not super common in Denmark, but in Latin countries these type of swords were certainly popular ~1620s.

Sideswords like this would have co-occurred with basic “medieval” style simple cross arming swords for a while into the 17th century.

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Mor10-84 t1_j7gr5r0 wrote

Archaeologists from Archaeologists . cool headline

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happyrabo t1_j7gcgtf wrote

Arkeologerna sounds like the name of the Citadel of Archaeologists.

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stormy_petrel_ t1_j7fyjwx wrote

I can’t wait to see this on Forged in Fire… it will KEEL

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WeednumberXsexnumbeR t1_j7hb2xf wrote

“The war was the result of ongoing disputes over taxation of trade routes…”

Where have I seen this before?

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paroxysms_of_mirth t1_j7jexyn wrote

Was it representative of the time or were they able to actually date it to the war? I might have missed it in the article.

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