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cantlurkanymore t1_j9zcjdh wrote

Did they actually have a concept of discrete months i an annual period? Kinda wild

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Butterbrotbox t1_j9ze8iz wrote

Nah, the moon calender is 13 months per year, pretty much in line with the menstruation cycle. "Months" are probably a concept as old as the use of fire.

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Big_Deetz t1_ja059om wrote

You can make the logical leap well within 1 human lifetime that the moon is a good time keeper. It's very good to know how many moons you have until winter.

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HermanCainsGhost t1_ja28lr9 wrote

Yeah, that was probably a pretty early discovery among humans I feel. Basically the moment we had the cognitive ability to process it, the pattern would be completely obvious.

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xiaorobear t1_ja0elw2 wrote

The word month is from the proto-indo-european word for moon. Or rather, moon and month were the same word/concept.

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horia t1_ja0y0ch wrote

in Romanian it's literaly the same word, luna

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KnudsonRegime t1_ja0bzyg wrote

That’s why I call it the moon sickness.

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maaku7 t1_ja0wc1r wrote

It's the origin of the word menstrual.

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avilesaviles t1_ja0p8sz wrote

i read some where that before artificial light menstrual cycles where synced with the moon and hence with other woman, now a day it happens when they spend a lot of time together or in same schedules, now we have more variables like artificial hormones and food additives

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Kholzie t1_ja0q126 wrote

Speaking as a layman, I think a lot of astral bodies have notably different positions year after year. I think astrology makes sense when you see it as keeping track of the time of year people were born and how nature’s cycles affected them. They say Virgoes are prone to bean counting/organization. This makes some sense for people born around the time of year for the harvest.

It has less to do with stars influencing you and more to do with natural cycles.

I don’t know about chinese astrology though.

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EndersGame t1_ja1momo wrote

> This makes some sense for people born around the time of year for the harvest.

No that doesn't make any sense unless an infant is going to start bean counting a few weeks after being born. Otherwise how does it make sense to you?

Astrology is 100% bullcrap and none of it makes sense. The logic you guys use to make it make sense is a little silly.

The time of year you were born has no effect on your personality. How would you even explain that in terms of evolution?

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Kholzie t1_ja3bcer wrote

> No that doesn’t make any sense unless an infant is going to start bean counting a few weeks after being born. Otherwise how does it make sense to you?

Correct, that would be absurd. But a baby born that time if year maybe raised to help fulfil that role when they grow up.

I didn’t say birth sign imbued people with magical talent at birth.

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HYRY t1_ja2fws4 wrote

I agree, except i believe winter babies vs summer babies could have slightly different personalities based on the mood around their birth and early days

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Veless t1_ja1r7nq wrote

When they come of age to work it will be at a certain time of year where particular work is required. So the time of birth would definitely affect what kind of work they would eventually be exposed to first.

The person you're responding to is trying to rationalize why people thought astronomical bodies affected people's personalities, not that they are exactly correct about it. Assuming people in the past were just nonsensical is bad science and a little arrogant. They had an internal logic, which is interesting to think about.

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Pyro-sensual t1_ja1mc0y wrote

That's a fun thought, but not supported by anything. When a person is born has no affect on their personality or interests

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Kholzie t1_ja3bjv2 wrote

I didn’t propose it was proven by anything. You know, people also say aliens made the nazca lines, and when they do they harp on aliens being the only ones who could see the lines from above. I disagree with that logic, but i don’t harbor vitriol and scorn for people who have ideas and want to ask questions.

We don’t know a lot of stuff about ancient people, what they knew, or what motivated them.

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Pyro-sensual t1_ja3u9d1 wrote

>I didn’t propose it was proven by anything.

I didn't say that you did.

> i don’t harbor vitriol and scorn for people who have ideas and want to ask questions.

I 100% agree.

>We don’t know a lot of stuff about ancient people, what they knew, or what motivated them.

Of course, that's true. But it's important not to simply make things up to fill in the gaps and spread misinformation. My comment was only meant as a supplement to yours in case someone reading was confused about whether astrology had any basis in reality or was just a fairy tale.

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Kholzie t1_ja3v6r8 wrote

I’m not spreading misinformation. In fact, I used the words “I am a layman” and “I think”, more than once. Like, it’s a very deliberate effort on my part not to pass myself off as authority.

Don’t attack me. I wonder why people have to use Reddit as a pulpit to put other people down.

Chill.

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Pyro-sensual t1_ja3xk2k wrote

I didn't say you were spreading misinformation. No one is attacking you. You're being unnecessarily defensive.

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the_ben_obiwan t1_ja232c1 wrote

People have been smart for a long time. Don't get me wrong, it must of been confusing, terrifying, and felt impossible 100k years ago, but they figured stuff out and superstitions that helped people thrive would have been passed down throughout generations. Unfortunately we can't seem to let go of that superstitious mindset, but when you consider how valuable it would have been when we didn't know why things happened it sort of makes sense

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SuperNovaEmber t1_ja2j8rb wrote

Modern humans, being perhaps over 1 million years old, have been star gazers for a hell of a long time. They wouldn't need an astronomy lesson, but could instead teach one! I'd bet you they all had at least one name for Orion's belt, for instance. Probably the dippers and Cassiopeia, too. And on and on, including Taurus, the Twins and Aquarius.

Ancient civilizations pretty much all developed calendars, obviously experienced seasons, often had rituals based on astrological events and seasons, had holidays, and in most cases months would be based on the lunar cycle.

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Pyro-sensual t1_ja1mjq1 wrote

I watched a documentary about this and they were pretty close to proving that it was a way to track the breeding cycles

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Winter-Sky-8401 t1_j9zyezz wrote

Seriously - look at the shape of the horns - what animal was that? Is the species extinct now?

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ThaneOfCawdorrr t1_ja0umg4 wrote

Pretty sure it's "the number of times Og actually did the dishes this year" with "Y" as the time he also swept the cave

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ValerieFinn0 t1_j9zl9ph wrote

I always thought they were showcasing were to aim

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Commie_EntSniper t1_ja0lvfq wrote

Wait til they find the tax returns. won't match up and there'll have to be an audit.

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