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TK-421wastaken t1_jbd3n7y wrote

So we know we started doing this (and so many other things) way longer than 5000 years ago… these statements need to start reading more correctly as AT LEAST 5000 years ago.

Like the claim I read similarly 3-4 years ago that the first domesticated wolf/dog was like 5000 years ago. Some little trib/family totally had wolf friends like 10,000+ years ago… just no way to prove it.

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SolomonBlack t1_jbdf8vk wrote

Science doesn’t care if some clever buggers tamed a wolf or three, it wants to know when the practice was established and dogs were behaviorally and morphologically modified.

Which we would look at remains to see if they showed bones too big or small, do estimates based on genetics, any depictions in art, etc.

And for 5000 years ago that’s really getting into agricultural civilization proper.

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Prime_Cat_Memes t1_jbe7m1r wrote

Göbekli Tepe is 12,000 years old. Science knows what it knows but it doesn't know everything and the consensus about very old things is frequently wrong.

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Doctor_Impossible_ t1_jbdfobb wrote

> just no way to prove it.

So how do you know that, then, yet the rest of the world remains blissfully unaware?

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