Raging-Fuhry t1_iusnmha wrote on November 2, 2022 at 6:56 PM

Reply to comment by ItsAlwaysSmokyInReno in When it comes to Cuba's military victory at the Bay of Pigs, does Che Guevara deserve any credit or should it be assigned exclusively to Castro's leadership? by Anglicanpolitics123

But Vietnam was fighting a defensive war, they didn't need it as justification.

24111 t1_iuthvlh wrote on November 2, 2022 at 10:12 PM

Didn't help the sanctions from piling on though. That chapter of history gets buried way too deep from public consciousness given who the supposed "democracies" were supporting.

Kered13 t1_iuv298y wrote on November 3, 2022 at 5:50 AM

He's not talking about the Vietnam War, he's talking about the Third Indochina War, in which Vietnam invaded and occupied Cambodia. Vietnam was very much not fighting a defensive war there.

Raging-Fuhry t1_iuv2hxo wrote on November 3, 2022 at 5:53 AM

I know lol, why else would they be fighting the Khmer Rouge.

They were fighting a defensive war against an aggressive and probing Cambodia that was in kahoots with China, Vietnam's long time nemesis.

I'd say it was defensive when the Khmer Rouge starting killing Vietnamese villagers on the border.

Kered13 t1_iuv4tj0 wrote on November 3, 2022 at 6:25 AM

The Khmer Rouge started the war by raiding Vietnamese villages, but the Vietnamese invasion and occupation of Cambodia, which was the vast vast majority of the war, was not a defensive operation. I don't know if maybe you're taking this as some kind of moral judgement, because it's definitely not. It's just a fact that an invasion is inherently offensive.