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MrWundurfel t1_iv0xftd wrote

This is very recent. In antiquity, the Germanic tribes were disorganization personified while the Romans were united

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otcconan t1_iv1gyu0 wrote

In antiquity, the Romans could not subdue the Germanic tribes. In fact, Unified Germany is only 150 years old. 1870 to be precise and during the cold war it was divided again. So carve out 50 years from that so Germany has only been unified for 100 years.

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MrWundurfel t1_iv1s8m4 wrote

Yeah, I don't think we are disagreeing.

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otcconan t1_iv25x3s wrote

So unified Germany younger than the United States.

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daveescaped t1_iv2lrei wrote

In some ways the US is one of the oldest countries; at least in terms of continuous form of government. Older than Germany and Italy anyway. But it simply isn’t a useful way to view things. America acts in nearly every way like a young country.

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otcconan t1_iv465qc wrote

Yes one of the oldest countries with the same frame. I suppose England is older and possibly Switzerland. But even China is older but they abolished the idea of emperors and are now Communists.

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dlashsteier t1_iv19tla wrote

True. But Rome fell in 476AD to Germanic tribes. Seems OP question is in regards to more recent history. And seems to me that has a lot to do with Prussian culture at that time.

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