what attracted mostly my attention, besides the photo, was the phrase: it constitutes the earliest known depiction of a narrative ‘scene'

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the 9000 BC part. An 11k year old carving. Incredible!

Near gobekli tepe and sogmatar. Interesting.

Very interesting that we're finding so many sites that seem older than our current understanding of human development allows. I hope further study can reveal more about these sites and what the implications are.

That’s the part I love the most. New evidence to shake up old, dusty ideas of history.

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Previously I think the oldest one was the Uruk Vase from like 3k BC iirc

Same, this is 11,000 years before when we are now. We live in the year 2022, for context going the other direction this would be like the year 13,022. 😳😳 It’s the only way I can wrap my brain around this, utterly incredible to know humanity has been around that long in some way/shape/form!!

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I read the article, but either missed it or they didn't mention how this was dated. I've been really interested in human migration and development lately, and this is quite interesting. There's just a near infinite amount of stuff we do not know about our ancestors and every little bit helps.

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I think we're slowly realizing the dawn of civilization wasn't sumar 4,000 years ago but actually in Turkey 13,000 years ago. Which is absolutely incredible

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>how this was dated

not sure. However these aren't totally new findings and I think that they are part of a bigger excavation area

The 9th millennium BCE is not really all that early; humans had been making art for millennia by that point.

Some have argued, for example, that far earlier cave paintings contain narrative scenes.

>Humans seem to have an adaptive predisposition for inventing, telling and consuming stories. Prehistoric cave art provides the most direct insight that we have into the earliest storytelling, in the form of narrative compositions or ‘scenes’ that feature clear figurative depictions of sets of figures in spatial proximity to each other, and from which one can infer actions taking place among the figures. The Upper Palaeolithic cave art of Europe hosts the oldest previously known images of humans and animals interacting in recognizable scenes and of therianthropes—abstract beings that combine qualities of both people and animals, and which arguably communicated narrative fiction of some kind (folklore, religious myths, spiritual beliefs and so on)...

>Here we describe an elaborate rock art panel from the limestone cave of Leang Bulu’ Sipong 4 (Sulawesi, Indonesia) that portrays several figures that appear to represent therianthropes hunting wild pigs and dwarf bovids; this painting has been dated to at least 43.9 ka on the basis of uranium-series analysis of overlying speleothems. This hunting scene is—to our knowledge—currently the oldest pictorial record of storytelling and the earliest figurative artwork in the world.

“Earliest hunting scene in prehistoric art” by Maxime Aubert, Rustan Lebe, et al. in Nature 576, 442–445 (2019)

This guy is a complete fraud. He's only on Netflix because... his son is the head of the Documentary department.

>Hancock's theories are the basis of Ancient Apocalypse, a 2022 documentary series produced by Netflix, where Hancock's son Sean is "senior manager of unscripted originals".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock

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It's fascinating to see a 'story' that ancient, being depicted. However I'm not so sure about the exact classifications; i.e. when it should be considered 'narrative', if scientists are distinguishing on the base of material etc. In any case I wish I knew the story...

Thank you!

"... in the form of narrative compositions or ‘scenes’ that feature clear figurative depictions of sets of figures in spatial proximity to each other..."

Though it isn't hard to understand what 'narrative scene' could mean, however, I can't always recognize it. In such and other examples, at least in my eyes it isn't always clear; i.e. when this should be considered one depiction of larger scale, or separated and independent somehow 'scenes', or in the end separated but connected [like 'panels'] 'telling a story'? Even if they were arranged horizontally

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>Its raised, open left hand has six fingers, while the right holds a snake, or a rattle, with its head facing the ground.

I wonder if they considered polydactyly significant, if this was a specific individual who was the "model", or if it was just a way they chose to depict this guy's hand for some reason? It's the little details that are always so fascinating to me.

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What's the story being told? A man confronts a bull and then gets threatened by leopards? How do they know the scenes are part of one narrative?

This is interesting! It is near Sogmatar

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