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Gdub3369 t1_j10zn8s wrote

Hadn't the turning point of the war already happened? This sounds like Americanizing WW2. Democratic ally-centrism. What about the Russians beating back the Germans? Germany was already going to lose the war.

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DatGums t1_j11bblv wrote

Russians*

With years of massive US operational support, and equipment and personnel support starting in 1941, without which they’d be speaking German now

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srkrk t1_j1em2og wrote

this. prior to pearl harbor roosevelt’s lend lease program kept everyone’s head above water.

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FillThisEmptyCup t1_j1ahsji wrote

Yes, Bagration in the spring of that year had really pushed the Germans back and was more than decimating their forces. The western theater was always a sideshow for the Germans worried about Russian payback.

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BikeCharlie t1_j1b2bcz wrote

It's arguable that Germany was always going to lose the war the moment the UK held it's nerve and didn't surrender in May 1940. They couldn't win at that point.

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AHorseNamedPhil t1_j1lphuv wrote

They couldn't conquer Britain but they also couldn't lose. On it's own Britain had no means of returning to continental Europe.

Germany lost the war with it's Soviet misadventure.

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