DweEbLez0 t1_je3v8e7 wrote
Reply to comment by Captain_Alaska in iPhone 15 Pro & Pro Max to be equipped with always-on “micro-processor” that will manage capacitive buttons and more even while the phone is powered down. by AppleXOS
Apple: “Best I can do is spy on you”
Constant-K t1_je3xg18 wrote
Except it's Apple not Google.
Substantial_Boiler t1_je4nsdp wrote
Their code is all closed-source, so it's not confirmed if they're really spying on you or not. You're just trusting their marketing.
SACHD t1_je4tjmx wrote
Closed source code or not there are still many ways to check network traffic and other information that would give you a solid clue as to how much Apple spies on you relative to others.
Substantial_Boiler t1_je4uftz wrote
Data exchange in network traffic is usually encrypted. If they really tried, it could also be obfuscated in other ways, so there's no real way to know if they're really spying or not.
You can only fully trust it if the OS and its relevant application components are open source. so that you exactly know what it does.
GlitchParrot t1_je4wmdt wrote
Correction: You can only fully trust it if the entire stack from hardware, drivers, firmware, kernel, OS and applications running on the OS are open source, you have assembled all of them yourself, and read through the entire source code.
XSavageWalrusX t1_je4xje2 wrote
It seems like a lot of you people lose a ton of time trying to prevent companies from seeing you go to pornhub. I’m all for easy steps like turning off tracking settings and using a VPN, but the security obsession some people have really misses the ball on what actually matters.
[deleted] t1_je4ahjl wrote
Except it doesn't matter and if you believe Apple is not spying on you as much as anybody else you are just naive.
Edit: there are four antitrust lawsuits in relation to privacy against them. One of those lawsuits is exactly related to the fact they kept tracking you, despite whether you've opted out. I wouldn't exactly call them the bastion of privacy.
Edit 2: their advertising revenue basically tripled from 2020 to 2021. And you certainly don't do that by not tracking people. They want you to think they give a shit about privacy. They do not. They care about money, and currently the money is in advertising. How do you see Google taking the major cut in the advertising pie without Apple's participation? If you still don't believe me they track you as much as Google - simply read their terms and conditions. Quite the read.
Business-Parsnip-939 t1_je4isab wrote
You’re right and people refuse to believe it. Of course Apple is going to try and make more money by tracking you for ads, what are you going to do? Move to windows? Switch to a Pixel tablet? Apple products are the best quality there is, they can track you and push ads and it’ll still be so much better than the competition
[deleted] t1_je4jx73 wrote
> Of course Apple is going to try and make more money by tracking you for ads, what are you going to do?
The only thing I can do. Try and show people, that Apple isn't somehow their friend or that they care about privacy.
> Apple products are the best quality there is, they can track you and push ads and it’ll still be so much better than the competition
I mean, that's very subjective and if you like them that's great. For me they aren't really the best at anything, except mayyyybeeee tablets, so obviously I've gone with the competition, but it is important to keep companies accountable for their actions and not blindly believe their marketing. Regardless of which company we are talking about.
Business-Parsnip-939 t1_je4sp49 wrote
It is always good to be aware and make others aware of how companies progress, but my point is that even if apple did push their advertisments further into inconvenient areas, (which they haven’t yet) most people would still buy Apple products because of their simplicity and quality.
A good example of this is the haptic trackpad, which if you want on windows laptops you have to pay thousands, and in terms of battery life on macs they are unbeatable. Even if Apple pushed iCloud and other services more and more, I wouldn’t really have a choice as Apple products are still some of the most quality products and you just can’t compare any windows laptop to the MacBook air for example
[deleted] t1_je50euc wrote
> most people would still buy Apple products.
I have absolutely no doubt about that
Conscious-Cap-8563 t1_je4k61s wrote
Yeah don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Apple might not be the worst in terms of privacy, but they’re definitely not great. It’s all marketing.
[deleted] t1_je4loq7 wrote
> Yeah don’t know why you’re being downvoted.
I can understand it. For a long time people have believed Apple cares about their privacy, at least based on their marketing material, and suddenly hearing that's not actually true... Is kinda shitty.
I too would've been pissed if I bought something based on the promise of privacy and later on to realize that's actually a lie.
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