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Captain_Alaska t1_je46zpt wrote

The biggest issue is people don’t know how to train it and actively work against its learning abilities. If you try to unlock and FaceID fails, DO NOT relock the phone and try it again in a more ideal position.

When FaceID has enough info that it thinks it’s you but not enough to authenticate you properly, if you authenticate with the passcode immediately after it fails it will add that data to the algorithm so it’s more likely to identify you in the future.

> Face ID will also update this data when it detects a close match but a passcode is subsequently entered to unlock the device.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208108

You can even rapidly train for certain angles or whatever by doing a FaceID unlock -> fail -> unlock with passcode -> lock and repeat until it recognises you.

I pretty much never have FaceID fail to authenticate unless the sensor is covered by something.

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gnulynnux t1_je651fd wrote

The problem is I never had to worry or think about "training" my TouchID, and I never had to worry about my thumb having different glasses, different hairstyles, different masks, etc.

It's very very very far from "just works" when we have to consider and micromanage Apple's implementation details.

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Explosivpotato t1_je6ok2d wrote

Counterpoint: my elderly mother cannot use Touch ID. The wrinkling and loose skin on her hands means that Touch ID simply cannot last more than a few hours for her. She’ll train it, then it’ll work once or twice and never again. This persisted for several devices in a row.

With Face ID, she has no issues. Trained once, and it just works. She has to use her passcode about once a week now.

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gnulynnux t1_je6pfda wrote

Oh yeah! I don't discredit that. For a lot of people, face recognition works better than fingerprint recognition, and vice versa.

With people saying things like "Your face seems to be the problem here" or "people don’t know how to train it and actively work against its learning abilities", I feel like I need to add my two cents. Fingerprint recognition works far far better for me

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Explosivpotato t1_je6pxul wrote

I honestly like when apple maintains both designs. Would you like a fingerprint scanner or a face scanner? Choose your form factor. The only possible improvement would be to offer both in one package, but they’d have to adopt <10 year old concepts to do that. I’m not fussy, you’re fussy

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gnulynnux t1_je6qifu wrote

I'd love if they had a fingerprint scanner on the back like Google Pixel phones used to have. Bonus point is it would make the larger phones much easier to hold 8)

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Daftworks t1_je77fge wrote

Just make the Apple logo on the back TouchID, like how Linus has been suggesting it for years now.

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Captain_Alaska t1_je6uldh wrote

All you need to do is punch in the passcode when it can’t unlock with you and it will get better over time. That’s literally all you need to do.

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gnulynnux t1_je6vb9x wrote

It is not getting better over time for me. I'll have entire days where Apple's face recognition does not work once. It's even worse when you have a long passcode.

Why are there so many people here who can not believe that FaceID does not work for some people?

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