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jetty_junkie t1_jeb82kg wrote

Why is nobody talking about the fact that someone actually googled how many combinations there are for a 4 digit PIN

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Billh491 t1_jeclv5g wrote

I was thinking the same thing.

But I guess everyone has things they are good at I can look at that number and not even think twice about it and know it is 10k while I need spell check to spell their most times. I always put ie

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DeadbeatUK OP t1_jeb8ir5 wrote

Well after being hacked I was interested!

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jetty_junkie t1_jebg0gj wrote

Sorry, I thought the answer was obvious and I was just being a smart ass. I’m sorry this happened to you. There is a setting that will delete you info after like 10 incorrect attempts in a given time period. Or make it a 6 digit code instead of 4

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hillandrenko t1_jebbcke wrote

Did you have fingerprint smudges over the numbers? That reduces it to 24 permutations from 9999. You're allowed ten guesses I think so the thief has a nearly 50% chance of getting your pin right.

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Tainted0401 t1_jeb433u wrote

maybe they watched you? hope they don't change your Apple ID password. See this story:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QUYODQB_2wQ

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DeadbeatUK OP t1_jeb6b6v wrote

That video is very informative and quite scary! Thankfully they didn’t change my Apple ID or password. I’ll certainly be deleting the passwords from my keychain too after watching that. Thanks for posting.

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corecenite t1_jeb45md wrote

Have you been aware of your surroundings? They can just look over your shoulder and just observe you. It's that easy.

And it's well-documented as well.

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Educational_Worth906 t1_jeb5ftp wrote

So easy to do with 4 digit PINs. Mine’s a lot more and I can put it in so quickly, short of videoing me, nobody’s going to successfully observe me.

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DeadbeatUK OP t1_jeb6k09 wrote

They definitely didn’t see me enter it, the guy befriended me then stole it from my pocket whilst hugging me. I hadn’t used the phone prior to this interaction. I will be more careful with entering my passcode in public though.

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OneAceFace t1_jeb7227 wrote

Looked over your shoulder. Humans can usually easily remember 5 digits when seeing someone type. That is why Apple now suggests 6 by default.

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ansky201 t1_jeb8a6a wrote

I heard that 7 digits is the most that people can easily remember which is why phone numbers are that length.

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AlittleOnTheNose1 t1_jebl8t4 wrote

Id go six digit and maybe even alphanumeric. But also I’m very careful so people don’t see my PIN code Input

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SomegalInCa t1_jec19fm wrote

I am always surprised at non mixed alphanumeric passcodes

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rittvilleanon t1_jeb3mtu wrote

if it's a dedicated enough thief, there's computer programs they can run which "force" it's way into the phone, basically trying all possible combinations as fast as possible. once into the phone, it's easy for them to access your apps and saved passwords

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jcave930 t1_jedngnh wrote

Aren't brute force tricks don't quite work nowadays since phones and other security measures don't allow multiple incorrect password in a short amount of time? How many incorrect tries do we get before the phone counts down before you can enter a pin again?

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DeadbeatUK OP t1_jeb6oai wrote

Yes this is what I’m thinking, some sort of brute force software was possibly used.

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