Submitted by GrandpaOverkill t3_xw6f6d in iphone

I recently bought new iPhone 13 and I notice that there was some strange yellow tent on the screen. i even disabled the True tone and double checked night shit but the tint still persisted,it was so sharp that basically overpowered anything that i viewed on my screen be it videos or photos, it basically felt like i was viewing everything in sharp afernoon sun.

I took it to an Apple Genius and he basically told me to get used to it as apple has been doing the same with all iPhone models post 12,he even showed me units of iPhone 12 and 14 series to compare and all screens had a heavy warm display.

I decided to tackle it myself so i went to accesibility option and there is a colour filter that lets you adjust hue,i moved the hue raadar in a manner that the screen was a little light on warm colours and a little heavy on cool colours and i used my iPad air A14 model as reference and Voila the screen now looks absolutley drop dead gorgeous and there is not overly warm display l. I checked the max brightness also outdoors abd there doesn't seem to be much diff.

In case anyone wants further details on my modification i can also attach the ss of the exact setting

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tupaquetes t1_ir5fi93 wrote

Strong doubts on what the guy told you at the Genius bar, I suspect you just have a defective display. Might be worth making another appointment as it's unlikely you can accurately correct a miscalibrated display with just a hue filter.

Or you're just used to the overly blue tint many consumer displays are calibrated to show. The DCI standard for "white" is a lot more "yellow" than people would think.

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84904809245 t1_ir5ksp3 wrote

The person at the genius bar is right, it was clearly visible in store from 11 to 12 and since then never changed. Add to that Apple employees claiming the same

Its piss yellow and looks very bad. The fact that we need a workaround like this on the supposedly perfect screen is something they’re getting away with for far too long.

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tupaquetes t1_ir5lvpp wrote

I have an iPhone 14 pro in my hand right now with truetone off and it's not piss yellow. iPhone displays are consistently tested to be the most color accurate in the phone industry. If you think a non defective modern iPhone with truetone disabled looks "piss yellow", the problem is 100% coming from you. You are accustomed to overly blue-tinted consumer displays to the point of considering that the international standard for white looks yellow

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84904809245 t1_ir5mfsm wrote

Nope its not, if you compare an actual good display with this phone without colour filters on, it’s piss yellow, I don’t care what apple claims it has promised to do with it’s phones. Apparently they didn’t or their standards are worthless

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tupaquetes t1_ir5n0s8 wrote

It's not what Apple claims. It's what independent reviewers have thoroughly measured. And it's not Apple's standard, it's the entire content creation industry's standard.

If you show the same image on a recent iPhone with truetone off and on another phone and the iPhone looks "piss yellow", it's not because the iPhone screen is bad. It's because the "actual good display" is too blue. Therefore it's not an "actual good display". It's just one that fits your skewed preferences.

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tupaquetes t1_ir6dv6z wrote

The measurements are not inaccurate. The calibration works.

Here's the deal: there is no such thing as a "perfectly white" white. It does not exist in and of itself. Perfectly white is whatever combination of red, green and blue we choose to define as "white". And that is the D65 white point. It's an international standard used by virtually all content creators. That means when an artist wants something to look "white", they make it look like the d65 white point. If they want a bluish white they'll skew blue and if they want a yellowish white they'll skew red.

Modern iPhone screens are the most color accurate in the phone industry, and by "most accurate" I mean that the default "white" they display (ie RGB 255,255,255) is the closest to the D65 white point.

However MANY phones and perhaps more significantly TVs skew wayyyy bluer than the D65 white point. That means every piece of content you watch is displayed to you much bluer than the artist intended. This results in the average person tending to consider an overly blue white as the "normal white".

If you have a NON DEFECTIVE iPhone, and you think it looks piss yellow, then you are subconsciously used to an overly blue white point. What you consider as "perfectly white" is NOT what the entire content industry considers to be "white". The problem comes from you.

It's either that, or OP's display is defective. It really is that simple.

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GrandpaOverkill OP t1_ir5udg9 wrote

I agree on this one,without the colour filter workaround the screen literallly looks piss yellow and it never ceases to amaze me how people still think apple is right.if piss n the screen is what apple considers normal then i might aswell stick to my non industry standard subpar android screen from next time

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SirMaster t1_irbh391 wrote

I have a spectrometer here as I’m a calibrator and I assure you my 14 Pro screen is not piss yellow lol. It’s very close to reference 6500K color temp.

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GrandpaOverkill OP t1_ir5j7al wrote

Could be, i have been an android user for so long so kinda used to its displays also

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gav1no0 t1_ir7n3j7 wrote

You do not have a defective display, I've been doing the accessibility trick since the 12. I also did it to all my colleagues phones and they were amazed at how much better it looks. iPhones do have piss yellow screens.

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tupaquetes t1_ir95bw5 wrote

iPhones are consistently rated as the most color accurate phones in the industry by pretty much every independent reviewer that can measure color accuracy. They're not piss yellow, they're accurate. You're just used to blueish whites.

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gav1no0 t1_ir9exgu wrote

Yes its accurately a yellow color.

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tupaquetes t1_ir9f6ss wrote

No, it's white. Just a more yellowish white than what you're accustomed to. But what you're accustomed to is significantly bluer than the international standard. The problem isn't the iPhone.

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Yo_2T t1_ir4zslk wrote

I noticed it on my 12 Pro when I first got it and had it side by side with my old 11. I had this same color filter setting turned on up until recently. The 14 Pro doesn't seem to have the same issue thankfully.

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Generalrossa t1_ir7f49t wrote

I doubt that all phones are yellow. Mines not.

My brother and I get the same phones almost every year and sometimes his display is more white compared to mine and mine seems more yellow. It’s the luck of the draw, amoled lottery. You can keep returning them until you are happy with a display. It’s one of the reasons why I hate upgrading is that I might get a more yellow display.

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LonnyFinster t1_ir83cy6 wrote

My 14pro is definitely cooler than my 12pro. Side by side the 12pro looks like it has night mode on

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gog056 t1_ir5wbvi wrote

Display lottery

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gog056 t1_ir5witg wrote

I had different 13s and all of them had a other yellow/color tint

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GrandpaOverkill OP t1_ir5xryd wrote

All of themhad different colour tints? And was it so pronounced in all displays?

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TennesseeWhisky t1_ir5x2px wrote

Wow this is seriously good thing, you can set your screen just as you like it. Because of screen lottery they all are differently hued, so with that it’s a non issue.

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GrandpaOverkill OP t1_ir5xxgg wrote

Call it a workaround,obviously it doesnt solve the issue completlet but it alteast makes the screen bearable

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Probot17 t1_ir7o0kd wrote

Could you post the screenshot? I am also coming from android and noticed the yellow tint too. The Apple Store told me I’m crazy since They couldn’t see anything. They also said my galaxy s9 over does it on the contrast so it’s probably my eyes.

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The0pusX t1_ir9ayt6 wrote

here for the screenshot

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MajorasFlask00 t1_ir56ufj wrote

Cant wait for Apple to move off of OLED. My iPhone 13 was my first device with an OLED and its an amazing display. My 14 Pro Max however, has aggressive green-shifting when displayed off-axis. Turns out, all OLEDS are finicky with their own characteristics. Now, I cant help but be very skeptical about OLED. Care to share how you filtered your display btw? Very curious

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Lucidification t1_ir5bapu wrote

What else would you use besides oled?

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tupaquetes t1_ir5f1yy wrote

MicroLED will likely never happen on phones. The reason every MicroLED display is 100+ inches is that they can't stack the LEDs any closer. We'd need two to three orders of magnitude of progress in how close they can be stacked which is unlikely to happen considering the pace at which the tech is currently evolving

At the end of the day the slight off axis tinting you get on OLEDs is a very very very small price to pay for the massive benefits the tech brings in terms of picture quality

Also Micro LED displays cannot bend like OLED. The reason they could make a foldable screen is that MicroLED is produced in small portions of screen because yields aren't high enough for full display-size boards. So they have to assemble the smaller boards together to make a complete screen. This is a problem because the seams can often be visible on the finished display. Basically the folding MicroLED TV that was shown is just several displays moving together and aligning themselves.

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tupaquetes t1_ir5mh4w wrote

In all cases, the off-axis color shifting is way smaller than what you get on an LCD

People who get migraines from OLED do not get migraines from the OLED technology in and of itself but from the use of PWM to control brightness. This can happen on LCDs and microLEDs as well.

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