Did you read my post? With regards to the 14 pro max it is a better screen, better camera. The dynamic island is a new feature, which like all things apple, will evolve, it's not awesome enough for me to tell anyone it's a must have. I obviously ponied up $1k+ for the phone so clearly I WANT change.

The battery and touch issues are real with my device. The 8+ has a much smaller, less bright screen. It's not unreasonable to question if my 14pm unit is defective, or if the 8+ had a smaller battery but less relative power consumption due to way less features.

As an example, the 8+ was 4G LTE only, 5G and 5G UWB do consume more power. Plus the screen on the 14pm is bigger. brighter, smoother, etc.

Case in point - the 12 pro max is notorious for a shit battery esp with 5G. So I am wondering - is the 14pm battery life being compare to the 12pm or other next gen phones that had early issues with battery performance? It surely may be leaps and bounds better for a next gen phone and I may be comparing apples and oranges with the 8+. For the record, I recognize the 8+ is old but I had great battery life on it when I traded it in at 88% battery health.

Also, I am not saying the battery is awful, it's just not stunning me. It is fine, and compared to all the features you get in return, likely a fair trade. My comment is for those hoping for one more year out of their 8+. Not the fanboys who trade up every year or trade in every 2.

I am also just stating my experience. I am open to perspectives to know if I should think about exchanging the device or not.