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djbuu t1_iujbum9 wrote

Reply to comment by kailron in I've just picked up an iPhone 14 Pro, with my last iPhone being an iPhone 4 (2011) - My Thoughts. by tomj1991

So this isn’t science. This is your eye. And it’s something 99% of users will never notice or care about. Good to know

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kailron t1_iujdbm5 wrote

Blaming it on “my” eye is just a cope argument. We will never know the true statistic but I would argue it’s not 99%, and the percent would be even lower if people we let to experience what it should actually feel like. There are various videos online with people using external cameras to compare hz on iphone vs android, one of them even has an approximate calculated value of a scroll of 80hz. And most importantly, a ton of people keep repeating the words “it feels like a 80-90hz screen” over and over

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djbuu t1_iujdn8j wrote

Not blaming it on your eye. Just saying this isn’t science. Either way again 99% of people will never notice this. This is the nittiest pick I’ve seen in awhile

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kailron t1_iujffob wrote

You have no idea how much of a serious issue this is, this is a universe away from being nit picky, you just can’t see it, not everyone can. Also, “this isn’t science” is a crappy argument in this case, science doesn’t just magically contradict observation. The only thing that’s not science here is your 99% number. There are people claiming iOS default scroll currently tops off at 80hz max since Xcode has 1, 10, 60, 80, 120hz as defined accessible options for iPhone animations, and apple chose 80 for default scroll api on iPhone. Contrast this to an iPad pro, which only has 10, 60, 120, so apple just gives 120. So far this reasoning is the most likely theory, the only reason why I’m using the word theory is because I’m not an iOS dev and I can’t confirm these findings myself

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djbuu t1_iujhogj wrote

It not being science is a great argument. Why? Because any semblance of a scientific method here would prove a problem. Instead? I only have your eye to trust on a problem so “serious” that this is the first time I’ve ever heard of it and your own “test” can’t even show an average user (me) a demonstrable difference. Honestly I was all ready to thank you for pointing it out and then be constantly ever so slightly irked that I wasn’t getting premium smoothness. Instead here I am, pointing out your unproven “eye” is severely lacking in concrete repeatable demonstration.

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kailron t1_iujix68 wrote

Well, sorry mate, you’re just gonna have to trust my “eye” then. If you actually followed my tests and still can’t see it, then you just can’t see it. From my online observations there are plenty of people who can see it and are disappointed, but there are also plenty of people who can’t see it just Iike you.

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