For months my battery capacity remained at 85%, the month I’m out of warranty, capacity drops to 79%

Submitted by Claymore6 t3_zvmksj in iphone

I have an iPhone 11 pro. For nearly 10 months, my battery health remained at 85%. Earlier this year I thought my battery will be needing replacement soon. And I was hoping for a replacement within warranty. Sadly earlier this month my warranty expired. So I just checked my battery health again and what do I see? 79% capacity and a notification of battery degradation and needing for replacement. I guess it can be a coincidence, but I’ve learned to distrust corporations, especially if they can get us to spend extra money.

Anyone else experienced this already?

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firebush123 t1_j1q5xum wrote

I hear you... My 12 pro's battery dropped to 86% very quickly after I bought it, like 3 months in. It's been sitting there ever since now 2 years later. I'm not a battery expert by any means, but that don't seem right...

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Holyshieeeeeeeeet t1_j1qd3b4 wrote

I mentioned in another thread that my phone was dropping steadily until it hit 81% battery health and then just pegged there. It hasn’t dropped in over a year.

It doesn’t want me to to take advantage of my AppleCare.

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[deleted] t1_j1s7kax wrote

Do you pay for the 2 years upfront? Or monthly? I just pay monthly.

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Holyshieeeeeeeeet t1_j1sbpcn wrote

Paid the two years initially then went monthly if I remember correctly

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notabot53 t1_j1t7n1e wrote

So monthly is not limited to 2 years?

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WhiteHotRage1 t1_j1teybd wrote

No, it's not. It's 'monthly until canceled', which you can keep for up to five years now. Unlimited incidents of damage.

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Kinetic_Strike t1_j1pwrou wrote

Where and when did you get the 11 Pro from? Apple stopped selling them new with the release of the 12 Pro’s, over two years ago, and their refurbs come with a brand new battery. If you bought a used phone how would that be Apple’s responsibility? Alternately it was a brand new 11 Pro, and it could be over three years old. Batteries are consumables. Get it replaced if it needs to be.

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Claymore6 OP t1_j1qdmsw wrote

How are you even assuming where I got my phone from… Of course I bought it new, from a phone seller, two years ago. They were clearing their stock of 11 pros.

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Kinetic_Strike t1_j1s3ba9 wrote

I'm assuming because it's an older phone. Apple's manufacturer warranty covers the battery if it hits 80% within a year or during AC+ coverage. If you bought it elsewhere, two years ago...yeah, golly, Apple is so unfair.

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Quin1617 t1_j1qhd72 wrote

But Apples warranty only lasts one year. Are you in the EU by any chance?

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turbo_dude t1_j1qkufh wrote

Warranties are from when you bought it not from when the phone was launched

Come on people! 🤣

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Quin1617 t1_j1qnv32 wrote

You said you bought it 2 years ago, Apples warranty only lasts for one year.

Again, unless you’re in the EU.

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danyaylol t1_j1rrkok wrote

Apple warranty starts the day the phone is first activated.

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Mustardnaut t1_j1rt87s wrote

But he bought 2 years ago. The warranty started ( assuming he didn’t leave the phone in the box for a whole year) 2 years ago and ended 1 year ago.

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danyaylol t1_j1s6t6k wrote

But if OP is saying warranty ended only this month, so the only explanation is that they left it in the box for a year/didn’t activate it. Either that or they’re lying/confused.

Even in the EU, apple limited warranty is 1 year. This is different to consumer laws in the EU which are separate rights to the limited warranty and doesn’t show up in settings as your warranty length. Consumer rights last longer than a year.

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Quin1617 t1_j1tby4z wrote

Doesn’t change the fact that it only lasts a year, except for those in Europe.

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Claymore6 OP t1_j1ryg2c wrote

Yes in EU, everything has at least 2 years warranty, for consumers.

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20SprintGuy02 t1_j1s3g2d wrote

I have an iPhone 11 that was brand new as of March. It still has Apple’s 1 year warranty. Got it from my carrier.

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Kinetic_Strike t1_j1s3tux wrote

Apple was still selling the iPhone 11 new then. They discontinue the Pro's as soon as the next one comes along though.

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PoetryRadiant6278 t1_j1q7gp4 wrote

A 3 year old iPhone’s capacity has dropped by 21%? Pretty good going, mine was at 86% a year in.

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Quin1617 t1_j1rd3xr wrote

Hell, my 12 is at 81% after ‘only’ 2 years and a month. This guy got pretty lucky if you ask me.

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Claymore6 OP t1_j1q89z6 wrote

I didn’t buy it 3 years ago

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PoetryRadiant6278 t1_j1q9ar8 wrote

Fair, did you buy it new? Still, batteries degrade and in some cases quite significantly depending on usage. Apple has been previously sued for their dodgy business with throttling and battery management, they aren’t doing anything behind the scenes to force people to buy new models if that’s what you’re thinking.

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Claymore6 OP t1_j1qenof wrote

Bought it two years ago on a black friday deal, new indeed. My previous phone was a 6s which they indeed throttled heavily and made me distrust them. I don’t mind swapping a consumable item, but must they make it so hard.. The timing of drop under 80%, which is the threshold at which they provide a free swap within warranty, is just suspicious.

Strange that this comment is so heavily downvoted lol.

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Stephen_NM2022 t1_j1q6e17 wrote

Apple is not making a profit off the out-of-warranty battery replacement cost. If you want to replace the battery then just schedule it. No offense, but it is beyond silly to think that a trillion-dollar company is rigging the hardware/software to stick you with an "at cost" replacement bill. It is simply luck of the draw and nothing more. BTW, if you have Apple Care and did not use it for anything else, that free battery costs more than the 69 dollar/pound/etc. replacement given the overall price of the plan. If you want to pay attention to where companies are playing the odds to make pure profit, it is the realm of extended warranties.

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deathclient t1_j1qcc1r wrote

I agree with your sentiment in general. I don't think Apple is individually rigging hardware for battery replacement costs and it's all a coincidence in OPs case. BUT it's the same trillion dollar company who got caught throttling people's phones for battery life in the past in a backhanded way to make people upgrade. So I see where OPs thoughts are coming from.

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gigawort t1_j1qn5d0 wrote

Sheesh, this again. They did it to prevent the phones from randomly turning off.

Yeah, their marketing about it was terrible, but there were two bad options and they went with the least bad one.

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deathclient t1_j1qpboq wrote

There was a third option. Make people aware so they could just replace their batteries instead of the entire phone. And they didn't. They were proven guilty in court and they agreed to a settlement. Please don't try to justify them. It's ok to admit fault. It makes them improve. Battery life on iphones have come a long long way since then and it's for the better

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gigawort t1_j1qtux9 wrote

First off, they haven’t been proven guilty of anything. The case is still winding through the courts and when it does eventually resolve, Apple will almost certainly admit to no wrongdoing which is how 99% of class action cases resolve.

Yes, they could have another option which is what they they give you option to not enable it. Like I said, their marketing/implementation of it was poor. Yet the end result today is still almost the same as it was at the beginning: nearly every aging phone battery is throttled except for the handful that think they know better and disable it.

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Claymore6 OP t1_j1qebmt wrote

A battery swap that costs €65, for a battery that costs 20 if I could buy it myself. And I have to send in my phone and lose it for 6-10 days. I could do the swap myself, but I don’t have an official battery and they don’t provide DIY battery replacement for 11 pro.

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Kecir t1_j1qgv0w wrote

My iPhone 11 Pro is 3 years old and still at 85% but truthfully I only have around 5-6 hours SOT daily which helps. Not really into social media besides Reddit. That’s a bummer it’s just out of warranty for the battery deal.

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wifebeatergroyper t1_j1qoaqi wrote

you can press them into changing it before 80%, but they generally try to avoid this. Also I have found the more invested in Apple you are, the more lenient they are with warranty/repairs.

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kniikol t1_j1rhyp4 wrote

If you don’t have AppleCare, all what you’re talking about doesn’t matter. That limited warranty wasn’t going to cover a degrading battery on and old phone

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ilreppans t1_j1qeqmo wrote

Curious if and when you updated to iOS16, and if that might be the cause. Based on my batt health ‘sudden drop’ I think I see how it’s calculating (at least one measure), and it’s understandable, if not very accurate, but only because it never goes up.

Apple’s got a nice ploy to utilize most iPhones/batts as an AirTag crowdsource beacons though - gotta hand it to them for that.

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Ambitious_Egg9713 t1_j1sfkst wrote

I blame ios16 for my battery woes. Full day battery before the update, and I’m lucky to get to 4 pm now within weeks of updating.

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buttertoast313 t1_j1qk763 wrote

79% is pretty solid. Based on your comments, you’ve had the phone for 2 years. Doesn’t cost much to replace the battery at an Apple Store.

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one_hyun t1_j1s29er wrote

Remember guys. The battery health indicator is not an accurate indicator of your battery health...

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XYRO47 t1_j1ragku wrote

Well actually battery health drops regularly (though it shows constant at some fixed % for months)but mostly after an update the battery health calibrates & shows you the actual %.

Thats why people complain that an update reduced my battery health.Sometimes battery also calibrates by itself or by a simple restart.

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thisisntajokeee t1_j1s4nb7 wrote

Min was at 80% and for some reason jumped to 85% when I check today

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Splatoonkindaguy t1_j1r056i wrote

I would trade it in for a newer phone If you can get a good carrier deal for it. Att offers ~$800 for an iPhone 11 if you have an unlimited plan

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TWYFAN97 t1_j1r32ru wrote

Battery health rechecks randomly and after every OS update. The reality is you should have the expectation to replace the battery every 2-3 years or so. If you got two years out of the battery then sounds about right and it’s roughly $70 to replace it if you aren’t ready for a new phone.

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SamShares t1_j1r38oa wrote

My 11 PM from launch day had gone from 100% to 85% in 11 months, then apple released that calibration fix towards the end of first year, it climbed up to 87%, then went down to 84% by end of year 2, then 82% by end of year 3. It was my daily driver, I used it heavily for work, many charging it twice in a day. But I never had any battery issues so to speak.

I sold it when I bought my 14 PM at launch.

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arochains1231 t1_j1rgkds wrote

My 3-year-old 11 Pro Max is currently sitting at 87% capacity but it's been there for a suspiciously long time... I've still got AppleCare on it so I'm not terribly worried, it's just a bit strange that it hasn't changed capacities for so long

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[deleted] t1_j1s7h2y wrote

I mean you can still get it replaced.

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paparandy61 t1_j1stkol wrote

My X is at 71% but it still works fine. But since I learned on this post that apple will replace it for $70 I’ll probably do it when I can get to an Apple Store.

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WhiteHotRage1 t1_j1tfmsx wrote

book yourself an appointment to your local store for a new battery; sometimes it's very busy and technical appointments can have a long wait or worse, no availability when you arrive.

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paparandy61 t1_j1ublxm wrote

Yes, I didn’t even realize a nearby Best Buy did apple service, I thought I’d have to drive to the city. I learn more useful information from Reddit than all the other social media apps combined.

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kida182001 t1_j1t34mm wrote

This post got me to go check out my battery health for my 13PM, and I happened to find out that there’s an option to add battery % to the icon now. FINALLY! Thanks OP!

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IWasTeamIronMan t1_j1t9g5o wrote

$109 AUD to replace the battery. IF they break the phone, you get a brand new one of the same make and model.

This is how I got a brand new iPhone X 256GB after my battery expanded. Nice backup now!

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