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altxg OP t1_j60jtox wrote

Reply to comment by bertpel in 48MP ProRaw is broken by altxg

I think that’s what I don’t understand about ProRaw… if the photo can’t be processed then why process it at all? I’d rather have a super noisy image that retains true sensor data than a “processed” image that loses all its detail.

What I’m trying to understand here is whether this is a bug (it must be, right?) or expected behavior. Unfortunately there’s no way of getting a regular RAW file out of the 48MP sensor, as far as I can tell

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bertpel t1_j60n7fq wrote

I don't think not processing is an option – after all, we are talking about Apple. If they deem something good (enough?) there is a chance it will become the default without any toggle.

I can't disable the "Smart" HDR function in my 13 mini. Only way around it is using the Lightroom camera (or any other third party camera app, I suppose). That also has the nice advantage of keeping noise reduction and sharpening to a minimum, which makes them my problem to consider afterwards. I also like noisy but sharp pictures better than the clean, oversharpened "smartly" optimized mess that has become normal.

Maybe try that? Lightroom saves DNG files (at least on my 13 mini, which doesn't offer RAW files otherwise). Maybe it gets the sensor data before any "smart" processing can take place.

As I said, your images are very difficult edge cases. I think even my mirrorless camera would have to ramp up the ISO to unuseable heights for this scene.

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altxg OP t1_j635pgt wrote

I used to use Halide for a while, and have tried Lightroom’s camera as well. Both are excellent for taking RAW photos. Unfortunately it seems like neither are capable of taking RAW 48MP photos, they’re both limited to 12MP. Maybe it’s an API thing that Apple skipped

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bertpel t1_j637hmo wrote

From what I've read just now Halide should be able to – they offer "ProRAW" and "RAW", so there has to be a difference in… rawness :D

For Lightroom I just found complaints from September and October of last year and a standard "we're working on it". Don't know what's the situation now.

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