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Basilone1917 t1_j8jfs4u wrote

Sweetgreen hardest hit

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bodhipooh t1_j8jgxgo wrote

Not sure if 100% serious, but this is definitely a fact. The NYT featured them prominently in an article discussing the impact of the remote, wfh setup and its effect in San Francisco, and Sweetgreen and other similar places basically have left the downtown areas and opened up outposts in suburbia or more outlying areas as crowds simply disappeared. My partner works in midtown Manhattan, and was back just a few months after the initial lockdown, and by her accounts, a ton of lunch places have closed down, which leads to more and more employees choosing to brown bag it, which compounds the problem for all these places catering to lunchtime crowds. For her, if she doesnt feel like bringing food from home, her options are quite limited and she will often just power through and not even bother trying to choose from slim pickings with much higher menu prices, which is yet another thing pushing people away from the what limited options remain.

People who doubt the narrative of a doom loop fail to see the real BIG picture. It's not just about workers, plunging commercial real estate value, and crime. So many aspects of city downtowns are being affected. Of course NYC will never cease to be, but people seem to conveniently forget that the city had some SERIOUS fiscal issues in the 70s and it took a lot of effort and work to get above from that.

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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_j8l8jww wrote

It’s a fake financial problem.

The state could just rollback all the tax breaks the upper class have gotten for decades paid for by the rest of us.

Reality is either way there will be budget issues. Even if the city got tons of money from people returning to offices the rich are going to want more tax breaks and that’s going to bleed it dry.

So this is really just a discussion over taxation of the wealthy.

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mooseLimbsCatLicks t1_j8kf8xe wrote

And it’s not easy to turn offices into residential because there is much less plumbing usually. Hotels are easier to convert

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Jahooodie OP t1_j8lgbzo wrote

And yet that's Mayor Adams' latest in the quest for housing. But yeah it may sound good but the infastructure isn't as straightforward as it may seem. Also things converted into a house tend to stay that way, and I'm just curious because alot of NYC's history of rebirth is on industrial/office space becoming the birth of the new age.

https://gothamist.com/news/mayor-adams-unveils-plans-to-turn-nyc-offices-into-20000-new-apartments

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mooseLimbsCatLicks t1_j8m4vz9 wrote

According to the comments the plan is just tax breaks and incentives for developers to do this.. bleh guess that might be necessary since it seems more complicated infrastructure wise

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