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flockofcells t1_jb04cql wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Witnessed a phone snatch on the waterfront tonight by Stargazerem30

Kid doesn’t grab phone in the first place, doesn’t think about pulling a knife when he knows people in the crowd carry.

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G_Funk_Error t1_jb0cd8b wrote

Bingo. Never knew why this was so hard to understand.

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matteofox t1_jb0q8gw wrote

Because it’s still gonna happen anyway, the threat of violence doesn’t prevent crime. In concealed carry states, crime still exists at similar rates to places without concealed carry. And also like….. it’s just a petty theft. Is property more important than life?

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flockofcells t1_jb0rvhy wrote

You don't pull a gun unless there is risk of death or serious physical harm, and you don't go instigating that over petty theft, so you're right it's better to let it go. The trouble is by tolerating petty theft today, it paves the road for more serious crimes tomorrow. I don't want to watch the JC waterfront slowly turn back into a place that isn't safe at night.

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matteofox t1_jb0ss5u wrote

I can see how my wording could make it seem like I think petty theft is tolerable. When I said “just a petty theft”, I was simply comparing it to lethal force, in terms of severity. We agree - we should not tolerate petty theft

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G_Funk_Error t1_jb0qgdy wrote

Lol the 20/20 hindsight. Because I don’t know what the attacker is packing or what they ultimately want. Police in JC don’t respond for days. What are you missing here.

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matteofox t1_jb0r1us wrote

You really want to live in a society where anyone can hold lethal force at any time? What if you piss somebody off and they’re having a bad day? Look up road rage shootings by state. You really want to get lit up for cutting somebody off?

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G_Funk_Error t1_jb0r56r wrote

Lol those are examples of illegal behavior. You’re not ready to debate this. Lol.

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matteofox t1_jb0rqpm wrote

Yes because making concealed carry legal isn’t going to increase illegal shootings at all. 🙄

It’s literally common sense. Move to Texas if you wanna live in a crimeless, gun filled utopia

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G_Funk_Error t1_jb0rliu wrote

You answer your awful premise directly, no. I’d rather we have a police force that did their job and prosecutors who did their jobs. Since that doesn’t exist, I, as a lawful and trained gun owner, should be allowed to defend myself in the instance of a robbery which is where this discussion started.

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