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SirTitsMcGee OP t1_jb839hx wrote

I’ve always wondered why. It would make it so much easier to access LSP. It can be elevated enough so boats can pass underneath.

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Brudesandwich t1_jb857wd wrote

Considering some boats can be dozens of feet high, even 100ft when you include the mast, it's not very practical. Maybe a pedestrian tunnel? Either way you have to take into account how much this will cost for no ROI. This city has way more important issues and it does not produce enough revenue relative to what it spends. Plus, this would be caught in more bureaucratic clusterfuck given its city property connecting to state property.

I'm not against the idea I think there should be a pedestrian bridge. Realistically, it would not happen unless this city is dripping in enough money to spend on things like this.

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SeaworthinessSuch415 t1_jb85ilw wrote

I know! It’s so frustrating to have to go all the way around. There should be a little ferry that takes you across.

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Stillill1187 t1_jb86kq9 wrote

OP took an edible and forgot about the third dimension it’s all good it happens. Just let me know what service you use.

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truebeliever23 t1_jb86lzd wrote

Honestly, just put a dude there with a zodiac and ferry people across for $5.

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Blecher_onthe_Hudson t1_jb86p2a wrote

Cost. Not only would it have to be tall enough to clear the masts of the sailboats, but it would probably have to be ADA compliant, making it insanely expensive. The bridge over West St to Stuyvesant HS is not nearly as tall as this would need to be and was scandalously expensive decades ago at $14m and is less than 1/3 the height a Morris Canal bridge would need to be. Let's not even discuss what a drawbridge would entail!

http://www.tribecatrib.com/content/birth-tribeca-bridge-february-1992

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Dreadlypirate t1_jb86pck wrote

Replying to Brudesandwich (#2,176,481)

Yeah, the city also just put a lot of money into renovating the Jersey ave connection to the park and the marina entrance. So it’s unlikely they would put more money into an entrance to save 10 - 15 mins of walking. It would definitely be cool though

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Direct_Ad18 t1_jb86qyo wrote

Replying to SirTitsMcGee (#2,176,423)

There are hundreds of boats in the way.

Even if someone did decide to spend money on this, the channel is so narrow it would be impossible to reach a high enough elevation on this supposed path to allow boats to pass under it and still have the path be be ADA accessible. Unless you're installing an elevator too.

Also, it's completely absurd and will never happen. It takes approximately 20 minutes to walk from liberty state park from this location, 10 minutes on a light rail or bicycle, 5 minutes in a car, and 1 minute on a ferry.

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Tysciha t1_jb86uiw wrote

Bike ramps and fast peddling?

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mad_dog_94 t1_jb893ty wrote

because boats. as to why its not a drawbridge though, well that would just make too much sense

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certifiedforgedcheck t1_jb8b2gw wrote

Maybe we can convince the pedestrian tunnel guys to compromise with a tunnel here?

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nanite10 t1_jb8gyop wrote

I see we’ve moved on from building one over the Hudson …

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ramsoss t1_jb8k7m2 wrote

For some reason the ferry here reminds me of the ferry in Pokemon to get to cinnabar island.

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fireballx777 t1_jb9ayfw wrote

Replying to nanite10 (#2,176,879)

You can build just one, but have it pivot at the Colgate clock, and telescope out when you want to cross the Hudson. And then each person using it just switches orientation to whichever direction they want to go. Easy peasy, get on it, Fulop.

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Byzantium-1204 t1_jb9bxzb wrote

They should build a tunnel under the ground with a glass top.

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mqk659 t1_jb9c57c wrote

Big boats in and out of that channel

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swiftkickinthedick t1_jb9e5xe wrote

Don’t they have a boat that connects the two sides? I put it in google maps one time when I wanted to get to the park and one of the steps was a boat right where that little dashed line is

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anotherdarkstranger t1_jb9hhqs wrote

They decided to construct a marina instead of creating a park for the people.

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Sybertron t1_jb9hm8b wrote

There could be but it would have to be a major investment to make one big enough for the boats.

Bigger question why is there not just simple stuff in Liberty Park like a flipping dog park or off leash area?

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JCwhatimsayin t1_jb9jkay wrote

What do we owe these yachtsmen? Are they paying us enough money for this premium waterfront that we should forgo a common sense upgrade like this footbridge?

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moobycow t1_jb9l80u wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,177,655)

It's a small pedestrian drawbridge, not an engineering marvel. We're going to be building a fuckton of stuff in the park, asking to build a small bridge doesn't seem unreasonable.

I also fail to see how 'taller/larger boats' is at all meaningful when talking about a drawbridge.

It's amazing how tied in knots this country has become that building literally anything is considered an impossible ask.

Retractable bridge - Wikipedia

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PICHICONCACA t1_jb9l9uc wrote

How entitled do you have to be to completely disregard an entire marina. Lol

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Noto_93 t1_jb9n66p wrote

There is one, that damn Snorlax just won't get up and leave.

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BERKNEWS t1_jb9snrt wrote

Because they want you to swim with the sharkies to get across 😝

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Age_Ecstatic t1_jb9wihb wrote

The cost cost to design and construct it and extensive permitting reviews that will be required. The time and energy are best spent elsewhere.

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cC2Panda t1_jb9z3ad wrote

Replying to FloatingWeight (#2,176,716)

Only because they want to use that as an alternate route while they build the stupid fucking extension. They are going to make Grand St and Marin incredibly dangerous when they inevitably have to close major portions of 78.

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RMN23 t1_jbadtq2 wrote

There is a footbridge that's about a 5 minute walk, so why build another?

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objectimpermanence t1_jbaht1v wrote

Replying to moobycow (#2,177,984)

I think people are just being realistic.

The sad reality is that political dysfunction and infrastructure costs are so out of control in this country, especially in the NYC area, that even the simplest improvements are often rendered unobtainable by the sky high price tag.

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cC2Panda t1_jbb6sbm wrote

Replying to sexxit_and_candy (#2,180,375)

I'd put money down that someone going from Grand onto Jersey taking a left hits someone going to or leaving the hospital. I'd also be willing to bet that a car will be hit by or hit the light rail trying to speed through a red on Jersey Ave.

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TheRealPatricio44 t1_jbb72zf wrote

Trebuchet and large net on each side would be cheaper and more exhilarating.

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FrostyPrick t1_jbc1a2j wrote

Nothing is stopping you from spearheading this project.

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RAWisROLLIE t1_jbc96kd wrote

With enough garbage dumped into the canal, there can be.

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chelseajc t1_jbcvzto wrote

Cause the rest of Jersey City would burn it down out of jealousy. Those gentrifiers downtown don't deserve nice things.

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chelseajc t1_jbcw5nd wrote

In all seriousness. The ferry should be free.

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iron64 t1_jbkkry5 wrote

Replying to Dreadlypirate (#2,176,522)

Ah yes, the bridge meant to funnel traffic into downtown jersey city so that every day, people nearly run over pedestrians and honk their horns for 3 hours because of road rage. Love that bridge!

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podkayne3000 t1_jbmpnlr wrote

Replying to swiftkickinthedick (#2,178,802)

Well, that's a chicken or an egg thing. If the ferry received enough money that it could cut the cross-Morris-Canal fee to $2 and operate every 15 minutes for three months, maybe usership would rise a lot.

Then, if the ferry could operate every 15 minutes for three months with the price increased to $5, maybe it would make enough extra money from all of the extra passengers that it could survive without the subsidy money.

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