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moobycow t1_iu3xaw0 wrote

I mean. I despise Menendez and wish neither of them were running, but the idea that Ds are somehow running worse or more problematic candidates than Rs is.. well, let's just say that picking quality people does not seem a priority.

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David-Eight t1_iu48dn6 wrote

That's not the point of the article, at least not locally (JC/Hudson county). But more of a problem for the Democratic Party as a whole, just look at the treatment of Bernie Sanders in the last two presidential primaries. Or look at Shamey Amy, this type of collision is a problem nationwide.

Jr. will definitely win and it won't even be close. But this type of mafia mentality will affect more close elections in NJ and the country.

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moobycow t1_iu4ik1u wrote

I'll take the D party treatment of Sanders (who is not a D) over the R party treatment of Cheney or Pence.

Listen, it's shit all the way down on both sides, but there is not real equivalence between the parties at the moment, corruption, nepotism, integrity of the system. There's no area where the shittiness of Ds is in the same universe as the current shittiness of the Rs.

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David-Eight t1_iu4m171 wrote

And yet they let him campaign in the Democratic presidential primaries 🤷🏻

I agree with the second part, Democrats are the lesser of the two evils but, we should have better options.

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LincolnPorkRoll t1_iu4lgv8 wrote

just a heads up, hillary clinton will never be president.

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moobycow t1_iu4oqto wrote

Thanks, I did not know that. FWIW, my meaningless primary vote went to Sanders.

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BlueBeagle8 t1_iu4h5tw wrote

What did Democrats do wrong to Bernie Sanders in the 2020 primaries?

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David-Eight t1_iu4l76h wrote

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BlueBeagle8 t1_iu4lycl wrote

Even if you don't believe Elizabeth Warren's claim, that hardly equates to "the Democratic Party as a whole" mistreating Bernie Sanders, much less a "mafia mentality." That's just a candidate lying about a rival's position, aka the thing that happens over and over again in every election ever.

Frankly, if the party really wanted to play dirty they just wouldn't have let Sanders run for the Democratic nomination in the first place, since he's not a member.

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David-Eight t1_iu4s10y wrote

In 2016 Bernie got 36% of the votes in the New Jersey. Only one elected politician in New Jersey endorsed him that year and he's out of office now. Doesn't add up.

You can also look into the lawsuit that happened in Florida after 2016. Where their defence was that they're a private organization and don't need to have fair primaries. Not that there was no collusion, just that they can if they want to.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilding_v._DNC_Services_Corp.#:~:text=The%20plaintiffs%2C%20a%20group%20of,Florida%20for%20lack%20of%20standing.

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BlueBeagle8 t1_iu4y9uj wrote

I'm assuming that you're referring to John Wisniewski, who is out of office because he ran for governor and lost (without Bernie Sanders' endorsement, I'd add.) Hardly a massive conspiracy there.

I also don't see how that 2016 lawsuit -- which was dismissed with prejudice -- proves any kind of party-wide attack against Bernie's 2020 campaign.

I get that you oppose the Democratic party, which is fair enough, but this is a pretty thin case. The majority rules.

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David-Eight t1_iu4zj56 wrote

>I get that you oppose the Democratic party

I'm a registered Democrat and vote in every primary, I just want them to do better.

If you want to believe there is no collusion, nepotism or wrongdoing in the Democratic party, then go ahead I guess.

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WikiSummarizerBot t1_iu4s2ls wrote

[Wilding v. DNC Services Corp.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilding_v._DNC_Services_Corp.#:~:text=The plaintiffs, a group of,Florida for lack of standing)

>Wilding et al. v. DNC Services Corporation, et al. , was a class action lawsuit filed in 2016 against the Democratic National Committee and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

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SyndicalistCPA t1_iu4b40m wrote

Yeah, I'll take a piece of shit who votes along with what I believe in 90% of the time over a fascist who'll vote to hurt my friends and family just because they choose to live in a nontraditional way and destroy the environment.

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G_Funk_Error t1_iu40dc0 wrote

I don’t know of any corrupt pedophile Rs in our area. But I don’t know them all.

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