mastershake29x t1_irci21z wrote on October 7, 2022 at 12:03 AM

Sadly no one in power cares. No one in New York cares. No one in New Jersey cares, as demonstrated by weekend service on NJT. They all think that mass transit is for commuting, and obviously no one does that on the weekend, nor would anyone take mass transit for non-commuting reasons.

Maybe you can shame politicians running for state office in 2023 to campaign on it, but nah, that won't work.

romanpieces t1_ird89kk wrote on October 7, 2022 at 3:48 AM

I've read that since it's into NYC, they need specific qualifications to be a PATH conductor which leads to them reserving it specifically for rush hour.

I disagree and am upset about it, but some context (that I should probably double fact check)

> As Business Week explored recently, the Port Authority’s PATH system is woefully inefficient. PATH, noted the magazine, is more expensive than any comparable system and shouldn’t even be compared to Transit’s subway network. According to recent studies, the per-passenger cost of a PATH ride to Port Authority is $8.45, and the average fare of just under $2 doesn’t even cover a quarter of these costs. The New York City subway on the other hand relies on subsidies of around $1.11.

Source from 2014

nycdevil t1_ire4jfq wrote on October 7, 2022 at 11:16 AM

It has to do with the fact that the PATH is (wrongly) classified as a commuter railroad, not necessarily that it goes into NYC or between states. That said, changing it would probably piss off the conductor's union, so it's not likely to happen...

Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_irfek45 wrote on October 7, 2022 at 5:40 PM

This, its basically a holdover for when the Path used to use Amtrak tracks before switching over to its own tracks and using a third rail...so instead of treating it like what it is, a subway line, it just gets classified as a commuter line when it really doesnt act like one since it doesnt go into the suburbs and connects major employment centers in the urban core

sapereaud33 t1_irfukct wrote on October 7, 2022 at 7:42 PM

Is it fully separate now? I thought I had read that it was because it shares tunnels with Amtrak so the tracks are adjacent.

aTribeCalledLemur t1_irhfvh1 wrote on October 8, 2022 at 4:23 AM

PATH and Amtrak don't share tracks, they couldn't, not even compatible. But the tracks run ride by side on the Dock bridge between Newark and Harrison.

Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_irpo5d3 wrote on October 10, 2022 at 2:05 AM

I think you are thinking about NJ Transit.

sapereaud33 t1_irq3sf4 wrote on October 10, 2022 at 4:25 AM

Nah definitely PATH, I was wrong about the tunnels though, but PATH runs parallel/adjacent to North East Corridor near on the Newark line, and uses the Amtrak owned Dock Bridge. Both are reasons I commonly see cited for why PATH is FRA regulated, but I can't seem to find anything officially confirming that.