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lilintrovert104 t1_itpj0z1 wrote

Doesn’t surprise me. They destroyed two parking lots for New Jersey City University to put up those cardboard apartment buildings overnight. purely a scam

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alex12m OP t1_itpyljs wrote

Lol cardboard apartments is right! I had so many problems with this apartment within the first month of me moving in that I seriously considered breaking the lease to move out.

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FishballJohnny t1_itpw0s8 wrote

How much renevue did these parking lot generate? Pretty easy question.

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lilintrovert104 t1_itq2wnp wrote

doesn’t really matter to me since the university is one of the only universities that lower income people in the area can afford. the land was renovated by the old president of NJCU to give the university a lot of money and lots of money has since been reported missing in the tenure of said president! and meanwhile when the lots were running the university was in much better financial standing

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_ituu0zy wrote

Sounds like the issue here is embezzlement, not parking lot redevelopment. Parking lot redevelopment is very much a net good. You can't beat a housing crisis by refusing to build, ask San Francisco and NYC how that went. The rich care about proximity to NYC, not whether the building is new. They simply outbid you for the ancient housing and renovate it on the inside. Or you build new housing and stem the bleeding.

Secondly, poorer households are disproportionately car free, not the other way around. Cars are very expensive and a poor enough person such as practically everyone I know does not have 10k laying around to buy one. If you want to help the poor, improve public transportation and build housing near it.

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lilintrovert104 t1_itv4ooj wrote

a housing crisis isn’t solved by putting up cardboard luxury apartments low income residents of the neighborhood could never afford and that are poor quality. So if we want to help low income communities the luxury apartments no low income family could afford isn’t a solution at all. I agree w u on public transportation tho 1000% but unfortunately that’s not the case in that area of JC.

“poor people no have cars” isn’t a super great or nuanced take. lots of njcu students have cars. source, i graduated a few years ago and myself and many others saved for $1-2k beater vehicles to transport ourselves. NJCU is a commuter school, commuters will not attend without accessible parking. the destruction of the closest lot to the campus has not helped prospective students. The lot destroyed was a 15 minute walk from campus, the only affordable commuter lot available to students now is a 25 minute walk away

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_itw7k2x wrote

Empirical source that the poorest NJCU students disproportionately own cars? I will literally bet my life savings that it is the other way around. Parking lots disproportionately benefit wealthier students.

Not building new apartments = raising the price of existing apartments. Again, we don't need to be playing guessing games with this. Look at San Francisco rents in non-dense areas and see for yourself. Ancient houses selling for millions because the rich care about location, not how new it is, and will always outbid you if there aren't enough yuppie fishtanks catching them. If the rich wanted "new luxury" apartments there's plenty of them sitting empty in North Dakota. They want location and they will outbid you for your apartment if nothing else is available. This city can't be allowed to turn into outer San Francisco with zero new development and multi million dollar ancient homes.

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_itw83up wrote

You also seem to be able to afford to rent a beach house, something I could only dream of. You're not exactly the representative champion of the lower class lmao. Polling shows lower income people support building more housing. So stop going to bat for wealthy homeowners and Wall Street trying to inflate home prices by not building anything.

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lilintrovert104 t1_itw8b8f wrote

don’t worry Ibe been poor as shit for my whole life and finally my partner and 3 roomates and I can afford a beach house for like a week! you def know me because you’ve read through my post history. thanks for being happy for my growth out of poverty as an educator.

again, poor people can’t go on vacation is another super shitty take

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_itwes7o wrote

If you can afford a beach house, you're not poor, simple as that. The poor should be able to go on vacation but they can't because of destructive anti housing policies.

You know how I know you're not really poor? Because it's apartments that get you mad, as if the only valid way to live is in a single family house. That's been the American upper class modus operandi for decades and it's why public housing stopped being built. There's million dollar Bayonne Boxes going up all over the Heights, where's the outrage about that? How does that help poor people? That's what happens when you don't allow enough apartments to serve as yuppie fishtanks.

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lilintrovert104 t1_itwf0ri wrote

who said I’m not outraged about that? And I never said only apartments made me mad, you’re assuming. I’m discussing a specific apartment complex that was built on university property not to help the students the university served, that’s it lmaooo

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_itwfw4o wrote

Note also that these days 100% subsidized housing projects are built by nonprofit community partners to look exactly the same as market rate buildings do. Is that also a cardboard apartment?

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_itwfqjb wrote

You've said all over this thread that you hate "cardboard apartments" generalizing every single new apartment as being of poor build quality, and now you don't hate them?

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lilintrovert104 t1_itwfysu wrote

I can hate cardboard apartments AND other kinds of shitty living situations! it’s possible to do more than one :) this is a crazy “conversation” and you’ve just been assuming shit and barely reading what I’m writing- bye Jerome

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