Submitted by sutisuc t3_y27r62 in jerseycity
Have been noticing them blocking them off for a while but now it looks like every single one has no entry/exit because they’re blocked by signs. This can’t be legal cause of accessibility laws right?
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sutisuc OP t1_is1wvl0 wrote
Oh which one is still open? Everything looked blocked off to me this morning
twanzetters t1_is1dgv5 wrote
Im pretty sure not every station has an accessible turnstile
objectimpermanence t1_is1nj5h wrote
I don’t know all the legal technicalities, but some stations like Christopher St and 9th street aren’t required to be accessible because they are so old.
Generally, public spaces only need to be made accessible when there’s a major renovation or if it’s new construction. But even then, there could be exemptions due to impracticality. For example, the Christopher St station would need a major reconfiguration to be made accessible.
However, WTC is practically brand new and it’s pretty inexcusable, if not illegal, if they don’t maintain accessibility there.
sutisuc OP t1_is1wu8a wrote
Yeah I am curious about the legality of it honestly.
imaluckyduckie t1_is22qiq wrote
Things break. It's a part of life. They have 120 days after first notice to fix an ADA violation before a lawsuit can be filed, giving them a chance to fix ADA violations prior to legal action.
vocabularylessons t1_is3ghfk wrote
Adding on, 14th St station has only one passenger ingress/egress, which is actually part of private property. Hudson/Manhattan Railroad and then PATH have leased those stairs from the private owner since before 1950. It's old and impractical to make it ADA compliant.
King-of-New-York t1_is6m7di wrote
14th St? Do you mean 9th St or Christopher St? From what I can remember about 14th St is that it seemed seemed to have “regular” sidewalk kiosks.
My personal opinion is that if the closures are related to anything other than mechanical issues with the turnstiles then this is a dirty and disrespectful way to treat disabled riders to catch fare beaters. Maybe there is something to be done before the 120 days are up? Media shaming perhaps?
Zulumus t1_is34ff4 wrote
I’m assuming fare beaters - at least on my early morning commute (at the Path station by 6am), there’s an army of people waiting for someone to enter/exit those turnstiles so they can flood in. And the morning security doesn’t even bat an eyelash.
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sutisuc OP t1_is3k48f wrote
Really?
Lawless660071st t1_is3ktl1 wrote
Yep, they do the same thing at Exchange Place.
sutisuc OP t1_is3n2hr wrote
Do you have a source that it’s cause of repairs?
Lawless660071st t1_is3oc8o wrote
I’m stating that I’ve seen people opening the turnstiles and walking through.
sutisuc OP t1_is3qwje wrote
Oh okay yeah I’ve seen that too I was just curious about the repairs part
Formydad2299 t1_is1f71j wrote
I’ve noticed this too. As a mom handling a stoller, it is annoying. I don’t know the answer - it may be to prevent turnstile jumping; lots of folks use those handicap turnstiles to avoid paying fares. After searching, I found one handicap turnstile that was open. I hope they leave at least one open everyday.