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legransterPR t1_it8ja01 wrote

Reply to comment by shortyman920 in Jersey City, it’s time to rename Christopher Columbus Drive by HobokenJ

I'd be perfectly OK with not honoring people who infringed upon human rights? Does not feel like a particularly slippery slope.

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halocene_epic t1_it8r6px wrote

George Washington was a slave owner. The C in Washington DC is Columbia. District of Columbia was named in honor of Columbus. Do want to rename the US capitol too?

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NeitherPot t1_it8srx6 wrote

Personally I’d be totally fine with renaming the capital (and giving its residents representation in congress as well). Believe it or not, cities, including capitals, have been renamed before.

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legransterPR t1_itagytx wrote

YES DUDE WHY NOT?! Why would you continue to honor people who used their power to literally use and abuse other human beings to continue to grow their power and influence.

Please, go on and continue to try to convince me that this is a good thing. I'm dying to see what convoluted arguments you come up with next.

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halocene_epic t1_itanqf7 wrote

Columbus represents the discovery of the west which should be celebrated. Hence the reason why cities, countries, an Ivy League school, a national holiday, and roads are all named after him.

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shortyman920 t1_it8vyeo wrote

I don’t think anyone’s honoring Columbus with the current street name. In fact, who even likes that road lol, it’s chaos.

My point is, let’s not honor these people with future project names and street names. But the slippery slope is when you open up everything to change because someone did something that’s not good. Every town in America can probably find something to change. Are we going to push to change all that? Those aren’t the issues we need to focus on today.

Human rights, environmental protection, future of our society. That’s what we need to focus on, not changing street names in every town. That shouldn’t be top of yhe list

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legransterPR t1_itahij1 wrote

This is another bad take, which implies that just because there is a bigger problem doesn't mean that other smaller problems can't be solved. You are implying that people will be satiated by the smaller problems and forget about the bigger ones, when in reality that's rarely the case. We can solve both.

Why do you want to be ok with honoring people who did really bad things in addition to good things? Why is this normal and ok and cool? Columbus literally advocated and enabled genocide of indigenous people on several Caribbean islands because of imposition of religions that they had never even heard of. Please explain to me why this is something that should be swept under the rug and forgotten because he was also an explorer.

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mcmuffin103 t1_it8xy85 wrote

Everything outside of downtown would be a good start for the city ffs. It’s just a street name. Half the people don’t even care about the street name.

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