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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ivh0f21 wrote

People are starting to figure out that the cops here don't do a fucking thing

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Indecisively t1_ivh6gdo wrote

That’s not true. They tell people not to bike or scoot on the pedestrian plaza.

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hxc-ufoz t1_ivhkfy8 wrote

You're right. Got a ticket for a high growing sidewalk weed this summer

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Dronez1987 t1_ivhrfbe wrote

find an off-duty cop that's a few drinks in, he'll unload his service weapon on the guy.

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will0w27 t1_ivj8ujz wrote

Well this is… is something. I grew up in the heights and got hit with a knight stick by a drunk cop as a kid He was trying to attack my uncle for being double parked, missed and hit me instead.

I was 7 at the time and nothing ever came of the incident. Dude kept his job and he was my neighbor. The 90s were fun.

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invaderjif t1_ivkb3xi wrote

Back in the days where children were human shields. They could take a few hits like Champs!

/s

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Tina_Las_Vegas t1_ivjns8n wrote

Guy really isn’t far off. I know enough JCPD officers that drink while carrying to be concerned that they all do it. It’s definitely not safe for the rest of us. Steer clear of anyone with suspicious abdominal lumps.

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kokoromelody t1_ivh70vd wrote

Was just about to ask "how has he not been arrested yet?"...

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BookOfMormont t1_ivimef1 wrote

Still prefer our cops who do nothing to New York City's cops who do A WHOLE LOT OF FUCKING STUFF.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ivimru8 wrote

Wait until it's YOUR car that has no wheels and YOUR family that gets robbed

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Lunaticllama14 t1_ivjchgm wrote

LOL. It’s funny that you think NYPD do anything about those crimes. They refuse to even write police reports for stolen vehicles.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ivjp4kk wrote

I said nothing about NYPD. We're talking about Jersey City.

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Britinnj t1_ivke4m0 wrote

I mean, Jersey city cops also refuse to write reports or even take info about a huge number of crimes too…

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BookOfMormont t1_ivindo4 wrote

Ha, I don't need to wait. I live in Jersey City. My property has been stolen or destroyed on many occasions, including the totaling of my car by a drunk driver, and since I live on the ground floor, multiple attempts to force entry to my home (all failed, thankfully). The cops were helpful zero times, ever.

BUT, the Jersey City cops aren't out here shooting us up or driving vehicles into protests, which is more than I can say for the NYPD. So God Bless Jersey City's Finest.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ivinlsp wrote

They should all be fired. Starting with the chief. And working down through the ranks until things start getting solved.

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BookOfMormont t1_ivint0v wrote

Nation-wide, yes, they should all be fired. You seem weirdly anti-cop but also mad that I'm anti-cop. I don't know why you're downvoting me when we seem to agree that cops don't serve the purpose we pay them for.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ivioalq wrote

No, the ones not solving crimes should be fired. The ones shooting innocent people should be fired or worse. But if idiots are disobeying the instructions and endangering the cops' lives, then cops should be able to use force. But if they're not solving crimes in the first place, then they don't even need to be around at all. We can just put bounties on the bodies of thieves like it's the year 1125. Either way works. But what we have now is complete garbage. We're paying for services not received and have the same problems as if we wouldn't even be paying.

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BookOfMormont t1_ivipkvj wrote

Mostly agreed. Your third sentence seems to assume that cops always deliver reasonable instructions, and that their lives are more important than other lives, and I don't agree with either of those ideas.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ivjpttc wrote

If you tell someone their job is to arrest this violent & possibly-armed wacko person, then they deserve the right to defend themselves, as fleeing isn't an option they have. If a cop says "don't make any sudden movements" and wacko person starts making sudden movements, well, their fault. Cop shouldn't have to let them start shooting before defending themselves. They can always choose to do what the cop says if they're worried about their safety.

But this is IF cops are solving crimes at all. If they're not, then fire their dumb asses and just let's officialize vigilantism. Because this halfway-in-between shit isn't good for anyone. Do it or don't do it.

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Potential_Ship5662 t1_ivjquqh wrote

As with any Democrat-led city??? Idk why this is a surprise to anyone lmao

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Britinnj t1_ivkepo6 wrote

Come on. The reason the (largely conservative, unionized, fairly unaccountable to anyone but themselves) cops don’t take reports of e.g. package/ car thefts or traffic violations has absolutely nothing to do with politics and absolutely everything to do with the fact that they’re lazy and believe it’s beneath them. Or that they want to keep crime stats low, so they just ignore the most common crimes.

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Potential_Ship5662 t1_ivkeu8p wrote

Ah so you will disagree that most democrat run cities don’t have coincidentally similar problems lol okay

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Britinnj t1_ivkfdyf wrote

Tell me how this specific democrat run city is preventing the cops from taking crime reports?

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Potential_Ship5662 t1_ivkgkdu wrote

My friend, you are asking the wrong question. You should be asking why is it that culture and society in Jersey City has allowed for this type of behavior (behavior of the citizens) to proliferate? You can’t expect a police force that is not incentivized to act and clean up the neighborhood…to act and clean up the neighborhood.

I run by police officers on Newark every morning. I usually say hi. Tomorrow I’ll stop and chat with them, tell them about what people say, and report back.

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Britinnj t1_ivlsn52 wrote

Really? You can’t expect police officers to do their job? The job that they are paid for? Isn’t that incentive enough? The rest of us have to do our jobs or get fired. The police get to do whatever they feel like with impunity.

And sure, society in America is deeply fucked up. Ideally, people wouldn’t be stealing. I suspect you and I would disagree significantly on the route to getting there. But most of us work within an imperfect system and still do our damned jobs.

Would you suggest that EMT’s don’t bother picking up car crash victims because there’s always going to be some idiot who disobeys the road rules and makes it unsafe? Of course not.

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Potential_Ship5662 t1_ivmmmna wrote

You’re very unaware of how American cities work then. You seem like one of those people who promotes sanctuary cities and then complains when people who broke the federal immigration law get bussed up to your city.

That said, your argument is invalid. EMT’s ignoring car crash victims could disproportionately affect people of color. That’s why they MUST take care of victims. Cops worrying themselves with low level crimes disproportionately affects people of color; this is why they MUST ignore them.

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Potential_Ship5662 t1_ivkhdrc wrote

Although it could be the very same reason police officers cannot/do not act upon people stealing under $1000 of merchandise from stores in San Francisco. Democratic policies that are meant to protect so called “protected classes of people” (Black, Latino) inherently allow for low level criminal activity to proliferate because the notion is that if you’re tough on crime it will disproportionately affect Blacks and Latinos. Being tough on crime, even the lowest of crimes, breeds a culture that says “we don’t fuck around you’ll get put where you belong if you break the law - any law” and then your police force will be forced to report on all crimes. Does this potentially force police officers to spend time on low level crimes meanwhile there is a shoot out across town? Possibly. Up to you on how you want to divvy up the force and their attention and/or their funding.

What you’re asking for is what most democratic pundits would call “racist policy” and by this logic you are a racist. Congrats on being inducted to the majority of citizens who are considered racist under this ideology.

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