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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ix9mz2m wrote

Forget HBLR.

Make a north/south PATH line. Fort Lee to Journal Square to Bayonne.

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oldnewspaperguy2 t1_ix9uw1m wrote

Completely agree. There’s something to be said for an elevated line

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Brudesandwich t1_ixa74sp wrote

I'd prefer the HBLR.

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samwiseganja96 t1_ixeai3a wrote

Do you have a reason why? I know HBLR is much more unreliable.

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Brudesandwich t1_ixeaqmq wrote

Because not everyone here lives their life based around NYC. It takes me longer to get around Hudson County then it does to get to NYC. It's literally harder to get around town than to go to another town.

Plus, expanding it further should theoretically help with housing as it opens other areas with accessibility. Right now everyone is moving either near the PATH or near the light rail.

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samwiseganja96 t1_ixebcmc wrote

I understand that but I think you're confused and should re read the comments on this thread

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Brudesandwich t1_ixegcjv wrote

I'm not confused and don't need to do anything. I stand on what I said

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixi3inu wrote

A new north/south PATH line would make it far easier to commute around in Hudson County. I'm talking about a line entirely inside New Jersey.

PATH is a lot faster and more reliable than HBLR, probably mostly because it doesn't cross roads.

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Blecher_onthe_Hudson t1_ixi7ifi wrote

You seem utterly impervious to the fact that an underground subway line is so prohibitively expensive it will never happen in a million years. There's no surface right of ways to use like they did with the HBLR, and an elevated line is also stupid expensive. Your desire for it doesn't make it any more practical than the often raised idiotic idea for a Hudson pedestrian bridge or tunnel.

There's zero reason to think building subway would be cheaper in Hudson county than in NY.

The Most Expensive Mile of Subway Track on Earth

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-construction-costs.html

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Brudesandwich t1_ixi9udb wrote

No it literally would not. The PATH only services those who are ONLY here for NYC. The PATH system and HBLR system are entirely different. Building a PATH line would be EXTREMELY expensive. Furthermore, I've rarely had an issue taking the HBLR compared to the PATH. The PATH is one of the reason I don't even venture to nyc anymore, from my perspective it seems it's happened more since covid.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixim8gw wrote

This is like a little child telling you that building a road to CityB won't allow more people to get to CityB because the road only goes to CityA right now.

Of course, because the new road isn't fucking built yet. Completely not understanding what "build a new road" means.

Complete facepalm.

Are you 9?

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Nexis4Jersey t1_ixa2x44 wrote

Then continue it over the Kill Van Kull along the North Shore Line to the ST George terminal.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ixajsxn wrote

Yes!! That's the plan all along. There are already tracks on most of that span.

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Nexis4Jersey t1_ixbvxo4 wrote

The span does not have tracks but the PA did make the bridge capable of supporting it...

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