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PrincipleOfMoments t1_j2yxkyc wrote

Reply to comment by Leanster2000 in Mubasher Saleem 2014 McNair Alum, 29 year old anesthisiology resident, from DTJC, died last week. Many of his fellow residents and classmates tried to revive him by fartuni4

You attack the poster's comment that it "seems like there are a lot of young, seemingly healthy, men who have collapsed and died in the past year" as being "factually false" by:

  1. Proclaiming (without citation) a statistic that works out to nearly 2000 such young people dying per year (which could certainly seem high to some people);

  2. Admitting that your unsupported statistic is from pre-COVID times, and thus leaving unanswered the question of whether a greater or lesser number of such young people have been similarly dying over the past year, as was the point of the poster's comment.

Then, as a cherry on top, you put forth another statistic about deaths caused by football collisions each year, although the study to which you cite includes all types of deaths and not only heart attacks, meaning that the number 12 that you parrot is misleadingly high when compared to the point of the poster's comment.

How lucky for us commoners that you are here to educate us on "the facts".

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Leanster2000 t1_j2zctup wrote

1)So when I provide you the citation you promise to crawl back under your rock? Do I have to embarrass you or do you realize google can be your friend?

2)You are the idiots claiming it is higher, where is your proof? Be aware, I am well versed on all the GBD BS and the sad cast of characters, the masters of misrepresentation. You have ZERO evidence. You have something you saw on TV, a frigging anecdote. You have to realize, to a scientist, you folks sound like complete and utter idiots. I don't expect laypeople to understand the intricacies of statistical analysis, but I do expect people who have no idea what they are talking about to STFU and let the adults speak.

The football deaths were as follows: "The most common causes of fatalities were cardiac failure (n = 100, 41.2%), brain injury (n = 62, 25.5%), heat illness (n = 38, 15.6%), SCT (n = 11, 4.5%), asthma and commotio cordis (n = 7 each, 2.9% each), embolism/blood clot (n = 5, 2.1%), cervical fracture (n = 4, 1.7%), and intra-abdominal injury, infection, and lightning (n = 3, 1.2% each)"

We haven't seen a NFL football on the field death since the 50's, so it seems odd and new, but the study show in college and high school, over 100 heart related deaths in the time span of the study. It happens all the time, you just don't notice it.

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PrincipleOfMoments t1_j303hbt wrote

Your original response inaccurately makes it seem like there are on average 12 such cardiac football deaths per year, and when a lowly layperson has the temerity to point that out, you quote a portion of your cited study in what my limited capacity can only assume was an attempt to prove me wrong. And, while I surely can't possibly understand the intricacies of statistical analysis, I am able, with the aid of a calculator a trusted adult let me borrow, to figure out that 41.2% of 12 is less than 6.

You also unequivocally asserted that the poster was factually incorrect when he said he felt like there were more such deaths in the past year, but cited only to statistics from 3+ years ago. To an intellectually inferior non-scientist, that evidence doesn't actually have any weight since it doesn't include the relevant time period.

You are obviously (in the sense that you keep saying it) a person of superior intelligence, which makes a lesser person like myself wonder why your responses are so full of anger and insults and so lacking in accurate substance or even complete comprehension of the points I've made.

I'll just go back to my tv so I can misapprehend some other story that I see.

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