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Miringanes t1_j3hsd39 wrote

Reply to comment by NoNotTuesday in You can now buy detailed replicas of 99 Hudson for $100 by D_Empire412

That Jenga building is sick. 99 Hudson is not sick.

My opinion is backed by my credentials: Architect.

Edit: thought about it, while 99 Hudson is not sick, the miniature scale model version of 99 Hudson is sick. Miniature scale models are sick.

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D_Empire412 OP t1_j3ijexc wrote

99 Hudson is a great building. It seems like the modern residential equivalent of the Empire State Building, and is the tallest residential building in the US outside of New York and Chicago.

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Miringanes t1_j3lt2ha wrote

Looking back at architectural history, 99 is nothing compared to the Empire State Building. There is nothing that anchors it in any notable epoch nor does it use any novel construction techniques or have any notable design features.

“Tallest residential building outside NYC and Chi” is like saying a Honda is the fastest car outside of a Porsche or AMG.

The building was financed and developed by a foreign investment company as an investment vehicle for foreign investors and the developer has been targeted in lawsuits for misrepresenting unit sizes up to 10%.

The facade is also freakin ugly. It abruptly switches from limestone to glass, they could’ve at least toothed the two materials together so the limestone appears to dissolve into the glass, but they didn’t.

That being said, the scale model is sick per my above comments.

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SonOfMcGee t1_j3mgqca wrote

Empire State Building - Art Deco. 99 Hudson - Fart Deco.

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D_Empire412 OP t1_j3ltjke wrote

I think it's a very art-deco looking building and probably would be my dream place to live if I was a millionaire. I like being up high and having a great view.

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objectimpermanence t1_j3nho4w wrote

What would you say is the most interesting skyscraper in JC?

My thoughts:

  • The complex of towers at the Beacon has the most distinctive silhouette, especially with the dramatic setbacks of 100 Clifton Place.
  • 101 Hudson is interesting as kind of an art deco revival building, but it doesn't really stand out in the skyline despite being a 40+ story building.
  • 30 Hudson is the nicest modernist glass box building, but it's not really unique because its basically a scaled down version of International Financial Centre in Hong Kong, which was designed by the same firm around the same time period.
  • The Ellipse probably has the most daring design of any of the newer towers.
  • If the tower designed by Rem Koolhaas at 111 First St. had actually been built as proposed in 2006, I think it would've been fairly notable as an early example of the Jenga-style tower fad.
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Miringanes t1_j3o1qeh wrote

I like journal squared even though it’s a little bit of a vinoly ripoff

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gordan_life t1_j4nguzu wrote

It is very easy to understand why 99 Hudson's facade switches from limestone to glass because it wants to present the transition from 101 Hudson (stone) to 77 Hudson (glass). It's your personal thing to feel it freakin ugly, but if you couldn't get the transition, I recommend you to look at these three buildings (101, 99, 77) far away.

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Jeff3412 t1_j3yn39h wrote

It's nothing like the Empire State Building which despite being very tall still integrates well into it's surroundings. Over half of 99 Hudson's footprint is dedicated to cars.

When that much space is spent on being a parking garage instead of filling the ground level with retail you end up with streets that are much more lifeless than 34th and 33rd st. in Manhattan

Walking by much of 99 Hudson feels like you might as well be walking by an industrial warehouse since large stretches/entire sides of it are just unwelcoming walls with no windows.

Many of the buildings in the surrounding area aren't great but they still manage to do more to help create a neighborhood. While a neighborhood full of 99 Hudson's would be a bleak place.

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D_Empire412 OP t1_j3yyelm wrote

Why does 99 Hudson have such a huge overground garage instead of underground?

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Jeff3412 t1_j4gwbvb wrote

I assume it's cheaper to build it above instead of below.

Neighboring 77 Hudson also has a large above ground garage but it still manages to have retail space that adds to the neighborhood (a small grocer, cafe shop, and a bar). Which is why I said many of the buildings in the surrounding area aren't great but they still manage to do more to help create a neighborhood. While a neighborhood full of 99 Hudson's would be a bleak place.

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