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Icy-Neck-2422 t1_j9agj4u wrote

It's not terribly close to Boston and housing prices are still high - no matter how it is spelled.

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dunkaross t1_j9bqcia wrote

Also, it has fairly high property tax rates, at 14.1 mills for 2023. For a $700k home, that’s $10k annually. That compares to nearby Andover (13.7 mills, $9600 for a $700k house), Billerica (11.9 mills, $8300 annually), North Reading (14 mills, $10k), Reading (12.6 mills, $8800), Wilmington (11.9 mills, $8300), and Woburn (8.7 mills, $6000).

https://joeshimkus.com/MA-Tax-Rates.aspx#mapAnchor

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pillbinge t1_j9ajnvz wrote

It’s between that and someone saying y’all in Massachusetts.

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OriginalObscurity t1_j9b3akl wrote

Yeah, y’all has become a lot less regionalized to the south over the past decade or so; and as a lifetime MA resident I’m always up for shortened words with as few consonant sounds as possible 😂

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pillbinge t1_j9alypt wrote

They aren't. It's from social media. A middle aged woman who browses TikTok is more likely to send that in a work email than I am to hear from one of my students.

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pillbinge t1_j9aq1w6 wrote

Sounds like you can't go on social media without being wrong. A lot of people have that problem, unfortunately. But young people aren't using it by virtue of being young. I get it - you don't have the perspective necessary. It isn't your fault.

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Repulsive-Custard247 t1_j9aya9l wrote

Damn do I feel bad for the students you’ve had through out your career. This will be my last comment, but I’m sure by your track record it won’t be yours. Good luck with whatever you’re trying to accomplish.

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pillbinge t1_j9c0b2i wrote

You don't know anything about the students I've had throughout my career - but if you feel that bad, get into teaching. Right now, not many can hack it. Those that can still leave for greener pastures. Talking to someone and then spinning it like it's character trait to then respond is bizarre.

>Good luck with whatever you’re trying to accomplish.

What, outside of being rated proficient with one exemplary on my eval? Definitely. lmao

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NewspaperEconomy5473 t1_j9blo73 wrote

>you don’t have the perspective necessary

You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. It’s absolutely ridiculous seeing a teacher try to tell a young person that they “don’t have the perspective necessary” when talking about whether young people use “y’all” or not nowadays. As if you have a better perspective on youth slang than a young person does, LOL.

As a young person, I can attest that young people absolutely do use y’all a lot more nowadays.

Maybe your students don’t, but that’s completely anecdotal, and you (should) recognize that.

Your comments always seem to have this oddly hostile & condescending attitude, it’s weird and unnecessary as hell.

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pillbinge t1_j9bzt4e wrote

>As if you have a better perspective on youth slang than a young person does, LOL.

Wait wait. Hold on. Are you under the impression that "y'all" is contemporary and recent slang? I need to address that first.

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Arctucrus t1_j9baklb wrote

> Sounds like you can't go on social media without being wrong. A lot of people have that problem, unfortunately.

WOOOOOOOOF

r/woooosh

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lufecaep t1_j9asl3l wrote

It is one of the acceptable replacements for saying "guys". (don't shoot the messenger, I have no strong opinion either way)

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pillbinge t1_j9at3bt wrote

That implies "guys" needs to be replaced when it doesn't.

The real issue is that English got rid of the plural second-person. So you know what's really acceptable (and I'm hardly a prescriptivist)?

Just "you".

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9avusf wrote

Actually English got rid of the singular 2nd person (thou). “You” was originally the plural.

We need to start a movement to bring back “thou.”

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pillbinge t1_j9awz1k wrote

Whoops! Yes, it got rid of the singular. I was just thinking about the plural of "y'all" since it basically moves "you" to the singular" and creates a plural in its stead. I meant to say it switched over but had a crossed wire. There are some movements to get back "thou" in some cases. Probably a sub. I spend time on r/anglish as well, and you have big advocates there.

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9b61xi wrote

I’ve seen that sub. It’s a little “white supremacyish” for my liking.

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pillbinge t1_j9baftb wrote

I've seen that reaction, but nothing of substance when it comes to claims. It's usually someone who Googled it and ran across that SPLC article, which is quaint, but stupid. White supremacists love Rome and Latin - that sub does not. The idea that language needn't be convoluted to gatekeep shouldn't scream radical identity to you.

What in particular makes you think that sub has anything to do with race?

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9ddzem wrote

They want to purge English of all of its non-Anglo Saxon words.

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pillbinge t1_j9dvsvi wrote

We don't. It's mainly a fun experiment to look into the etymology of words outside of Greek and Latin, introduced by way of French in 1066, to see what words either already existed, or what words we could use now.

And just to check: you know the Anglo-Saxons weren't synonymous with all of Europe, right? The language most Anglish adherents rail against is French, which is also very White. Greek and Latin - amazingly White. In fact, White Supremacists have a sort of affection for antiquity that isn't shared with Anglish at all.

A lot of words, especially from science, came from scientists coming up with words on the fly. Neat, but not very rooted in the vernacular. I can personally attest to how that affects us because it's always these types of words that students struggle with and have to learn. It's why English has spelling bees for its own people. It's easier to teach "bird study" than "ornithology", as the classic example goes. These are the kinds of words my students who are learning English struggle with. I don't consider making English easier to learn for non-White people to be very supremacist.

And for anyone still reading: words from Latin before 1066 are usually fine, as long as the concepts are unique. But plenty of Old English words existed for concepts we have now. They were just replaced with French for no reason other than classist belief.

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9f6a66 wrote

I understand YOUR motivation. And I do find it interesting. But, unfortunately, your innocent etymological exercise has been latched onto by groups like storm front. It’s a shame. But it’s predictable. Anything that celebrates Anglo Saxon/Nordic/Celtic culture is their nectar.

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pillbinge t1_j9fkjw3 wrote

Okay - but where? They certainly aren't in the sub itself, and if they are, none of their dogshit beliefs come up. You don't have to link it here but feel free to message me instances of it.

Otherwise this is all just fear voiced as a solid opinion.

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9fz7ck wrote

I didn’t mean to say they’re in the sub. What I meant was that Anglish has been latched onto by white supremacists in real life. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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pillbinge t1_j9g20ah wrote

I totally get it, and feel free to look into users you think may be doing that. But this is all very "out there". I'd like actual proof, though. And since this conversation is happening in view of others, they need it as well.

I've had nearly this exact conversation about three times now and it's never gone further than this point. Anglish doesn't exist outside these limited websites. We don't meet in person. "Real life" isn't an excuse not to show proof. I just really want that proof.

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9hi1ig wrote

I have twice said that I am not referring to your sub Reddit. What are you asking me? Do you want me to give you links to examples outside of Reddit of white supremacy, groups being drawn to Anglish?

I’m not going to do that. If you can’t see why a movement to purify the English language back to its German roots is appealing to white supremacists I can’t help you.

I’m not saying that your sub Reddit is a haven for white supremacy. I’m saying that I, personally, don’t want anything to do with it based on my personal experience of having a step son who is a white supremacist.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2018/blue-eyed-english

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pillbinge t1_j9hs39a wrote

I understand you're not referring to that specific sub. I'm putting out a general call to show real intentions. Keep in mind that this is all read by other people.

You don't have to give links to pages outside of Reddit as proof - whether here (not advised) or in a message (doable, but I get any trepidation). You just can't carry on like you have proof - especially if you're just going to post the exact article I referenced very early on.

It's obvious why dipshit White supremacists would want to "purify" English. The problem is that I have no issue with that alignment, given that English is one of many languages of Europe, and English itself isn't a default state of Whiteness. English belongs to many people - many who aren't White. That is well understood. You are understood. It's just not a very appealing exchange when you don't have real, direct proof. I need that.

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9hsdkq wrote

I think I’m done. I’ve already explained my intentions and my personal experience. This may be a public forum, but I’m pretty certain nobody is reading our exchange right now, except for you and me.

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pillbinge t1_j9hsht3 wrote

No one's reading your proof either, including you or me. I don't know what's therefore "done".

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Roberto-Del-Camino t1_j9hyqqf wrote

Dude, we’re done. I made the mistake of engaging you. But I’m done with that. Have a good life.

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GarbageFile13 t1_j9annts wrote

Interesting. I say it all the time but I moved up here from Texas, the land of "y'all." I notice it right away when I hear it in adults and I only run into it once a week. I'm more likely to get made fun of for using it than heading it. Which is fine since it's all in good fun and I'm glad I escaped Texas.

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pillbinge t1_j9apw58 wrote

Which is fine. My cousins from Alabama say it all the time too. They're from Alabama, though. If they started saying "wicked" or something else obvious to our region, I'd raise an eyebrow at least.

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novolog t1_j9akdm8 wrote

Politics are extremely cringe tbh

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Low-Squirrel-4307 t1_j9atk9p wrote

I have lived here (BTW, Tewksbury) for 19 years and I love it. Route 38 is the main road and traffic can be pretty grim but other than that it's great. You have fairly easy access to three major highways; 93, 95 and 495 and multiple train stations if you prefer that.

Also while the route 38 traffic gets backed up it's not THAT bad and it's backed up because there are places to go. Lots of nice little restaurants including the best donuts in the state at Donna's, couple of hardware stores (Aubuchon is a nice small one and there's a Home Depot also) and a truly great library.

Lastly, it's a short jump up the highway to the tax free Rockingham Mall in Salem, NH. Highly recommended.

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dvboy t1_j9gnprf wrote

I like the food at TJ Callahan's. The crowd is blue collar, and pretty chill, although I've only ever been there for lunch.

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TravelingCircus1911 t1_j9b2s8b wrote

There’s a Market Basket next a Papa Ginos on the same road as a Market Basket next to a Papa Ginos. But in all reality, I lived in an apartment complex in Tewksbury for two years, and while the complex SUCKED (Lodge at Ames Pond, who cares), I enjoyed Tewksbury. I’m in a neighboring town now, but still find myself in Tewksbury a lot for various food and shopping. Also the zip code is easy to remember.

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ak47workaccnt t1_j9euhkm wrote

38 has at least 8 pizza places between 495 and South St.

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OccidentallySlain t1_j9looev wrote

Lmao Lodge wanted so much money for 'the view' and kept negging for committment to 'our next home' or whatever for like $3,000/month. It's a lot cheaper to hang a picture of a lake on the wall and live in a complex with better people and decent maintenance.

Still looked better than Joan's Farm though, the whole place is designed and decorated like a coffin and you could hear the air moving around the next apartment through the walls. $2,400/month they were asking, new they said. One maintenance manager, if you wanted your mail or packages you had to go outside to the central building for mail and pick up packages during business hours. I guess they considered the smell of manure from their farm across the parking lot to be a big enough perk.

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TravelingCircus1911 t1_j9lt8ve wrote

The Lodge are experts at making the complex look great on the internet. Posting pictures of the resident lounge and leasing office making it look like floor to ceiling windows in every unit.

I see that Joan’s Farm does the same “quiet country woods and rolling farmlands”. GTFO with the shit hahah

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OccidentallySlain t1_j9ltup0 wrote

Never heard of a quiet farm myself and the woods are only still there because they're a protected hospital burying ground.

Real classy area and you can listen to the sounds of all the Dascomb road industrial traffic all day.

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TravelingCircus1911 t1_j9luf9p wrote

I actually noticed that it’s finally a marked graveyard! I took my dog for a walk in there once and found a bunch of half burned books from the 1800’s. Last time I went for a walk through there.

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cdwalrusman t1_j9alokj wrote

Might help to learn how to spell it

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ManifestDestinysChld t1_j9am4ts wrote

Tewksbury is a shithole, but Twerksberry? That place is fuckin' LIT.

Alternate punchline: "Twerksberry?! Man, Twerksberry still owes me fifty bucks!"

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1000thusername t1_j9ai5kj wrote

Tewksbury is an okay place. Good highway access. Decently quiet.

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nick1894 t1_j9aiqg5 wrote

I’d look elsewhere. Pretty grim place

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PakkyT t1_j9b33g1 wrote

There is a Tree House Brewery location there now so there is that.

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IWishIWasABabyGoat t1_j9c3ov4 wrote

As several others have said, if you don't need the closer proximity to Boston, consider going further north for more bang for your buck. You'll have a hard time finding anything under 500k.

Otherwise, it's a conveniently located town. 30ish minutes from Boston (without traffic) and 30ish minutes from either Salem or Nashua, NH. Close to 93, 495, and rt 3.

Traffic on 38 sucks but if you learn the back roads, you can easily get around it most of the time.

You'll have your selection of various Market Baskets to shop at, all within a 10 minute max drive.

Stay away from motel 6 and the IHOP that is there.

And as someone also mentioned, the gun club is very active and you will hear it a lot if you choose a house nearby.

It is also very Republican (several neighbors still waving their Trump flags around), and God forbid you ask them to get rid of the Redmen mascot. Still has a very towny vibe, but there has been a shit ton of development over the last 10 years and a huge influx of new people.

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SpokenTruuth t1_j9hp5ox wrote

Yikes. Thanks for the warning. Considered looking at places there

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IsThatYourPickle t1_j9aknmw wrote

I guess it depends what you're looking for. Schools? Jobs? Closeness to 495?

Home values tend to be cheaper than its neighbor, Wilmington.

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bostonboy08 t1_j9az39x wrote

Home values are cheaper because their schools are bad when compared to the surrounding communities.

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tomcat3121 t1_j9alyg8 wrote

I lived there for a couple of years, and I have lot of family that still does. The biggest cons are the traffic. 38 backs up and it binds up almost the entire town because of how it's laid out.

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The schools are OK, but it has the same problems as all the suburbs in the area. Also near the state hospital is the gun club. It's a very active club, so if you are in that part of town, consider the noise.

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Omphaloskeptique t1_j9bbdbe wrote

Is the traffic restricted to certain times of the day, or is there traffic to contend with during the whole day?

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tomcat3121 t1_j9buihe wrote

Around school times and rush hours are the worst of it. The plazas near market basket and Walgreen are pretty busy most of the time.

You can take some back roads around the major bottlenecks, but you almost always need to cross 38 at some point.

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fam1lystr0kez t1_j9axyy1 wrote

Just avoid motel 6 and IHOP and you’re straight. Nothing but Junkboxes and hookers over there unfortunately

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wwwWokeYogiCom t1_j9edo5s wrote

I was at the Walmart near the motel 6 and ihop like 5 hours ago and two dudes were making out in front of the entrance lol

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scotchplaid87 t1_j9aoa24 wrote

It's small and quiet and out of the way. All of those can be either a pro or a con depending on your situation.

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graemeknows t1_j9auauj wrote

My son and daughter in law moved there a year ago and they love it!

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DeathGrover t1_j9aiswq wrote

Don’t. Towny Towny Towny. Do you know what it’s famous for? Gateway to Lowell. It’s the suburb of the failed mill town. I grew up there. ‘Tis an ignorant place.

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nsaeeaw t1_j9ap8mi wrote

They have one too the best breweries (Treehouse) in the US, If you’re into that type of thing.

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canadacorriendo785 t1_j9d8i5q wrote

Grew up in the area. Despite what some people are saying Tewksbury is totally fine. Normal, unremarkable suburban.

I would however say if you're looking in that area at that price range I'd probably pick Chelmsford or Billerica over Tewksbury. More going on for restaurants, more conservation land, marginally better schools, just better layout of the town in general.

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novolog t1_j9aks3x wrote

If your range is 500k-800k and you have or are planning to have kids it’s a good option. Right on 93 as well. Route 38 is not great though.

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ChainmailleAddict t1_j9drpf5 wrote

If you're planning on having kids, they'll have access to Shawsheen Technical Highschool, which is quite literally one of the best public schools in the state in what's already the best education state. Worth noting!

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directtodvd420 t1_j9e2xe7 wrote

They had an escaped monkey running around about 3 years ago and that case was never solved, so with this what you will.

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goldfishman63 t1_j9aibbj wrote

The new Twix Berry candy bar from Mars coming to a store near you

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therapeutic-distance t1_j9ajknt wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tewksbury,_Massachusetts

It depends on what you are looking for. As far as I know it is a quiet town, and not too far from Boston or RT 128.

You may be able to find a starter home there for less than you would in surrounding communities.

The state hospital is there. So, I would avoid being in the immediate vicinity of that institution as some of those folks tend to wander.

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Neil94403 t1_j9av5jf wrote

If you don’t mind being on the NH border, you might think about going one notch North to state & sales tax free New Hampshire.

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looplink t1_j9bcbx5 wrote

Twerksberry. Ha!!

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UnlededFloyd t1_j9cqd3g wrote

I’ve lived in Tewksbury for most of my life. I’m 45. I lived in NH for only 6 years Tewksbury the rest. It has the same exact issues as any suburb. Schools are decent. Not bad, not great. My kids have been in school system here since preschool. I don’t sing it’s praises but I don’t have any major complaints either.

Yes it has some crap bag people in it. There is no town that doesn’t. Biggest issue is 495 passes Tewksbury to make it easy for Lawrence and Lowell drug drop offs. However, Tewksbury PD is absolutely fantastic. They don’t mess around and there are always drug busts.

House prices suck, taxes suck. But there are no towns in Merrimack valley that are “cheap”. If you want cheap go to northern Maine.

Traffic sucks and will get worse. Treehouse brewery will be opening on rt 38 in April. I can only imagine what kind of traffic jams that will cause. On any weekday going from Woburn through Wilmington to Tewksbury on rt 38 can be unbearable.

Everyone that I am around from the town are usually really good people. Like I said, of course there are crap bag people. There is no avoiding it. If my work wasn’t located 10 minutes away and my kids weren’t still in school I would move. But not because Tewksbury sucks. I just want more land and privacy.

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waffles2go2 t1_j9b90q3 wrote

Nice town, Donna's Donuts, Waffle Place, Bowling Alley (and new treehouse place) are all draws. Rt 38 is a depressing drag but has a lot of stuff on it.

I think they closed the airport that went over the arcade?

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lotusblossom60 t1_j9cgihf wrote

Been here 15 years and love it. I can hop onto 93 or 495. I’m selling my condo in a few months. Message me if interested! Two bedrooms, loft, garage, fireplace, stainless appliances, granite, woods behind me, low fees and a pool.

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_kaetee t1_j9cohq9 wrote

If you’re white and conservative and your fiancé is also white and conservative, you’ll probably like it.

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Eire4ever37 t1_j9dc12n wrote

Tewksbury would not be at the top of my list.

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wwwWokeYogiCom t1_j9edl2t wrote

I doordash and Uber in Boston and live in Billerica, its not a bad area

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tjlightbulb t1_j9etqs9 wrote

I didn’t notice the typo til you pointed it out 😂

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Frostlark t1_j9fssvh wrote

Go to Vic's waffle house. Ignore nearly everything else. You'll have a blast there.

But yeah it's pricy af for how nice it is.

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OccidentallySlain t1_j9llowz wrote

Was there renting for a few years, do not recommend. There is something in the water that makes the whole town weird.

Pros:

Good library, nice farmers market in the season.

Cons:

People say good access to whatever highways and train stations, but really they mean pick one and add 10+ minutes local driving to get to another. Pick a place and see how you'd have to drive to get somewhere far away? Along 495 is fine, maybe along 93, but if you want anywhere else you'll have to drive all the way through Tewksbury and Billerica to get to the west of Boston or drive 10 miles down 93. Pretty much every other suburb town has better access to anywhere. To go north locally, you have to drive through south Lowell, which can be a hard drive.

Just getting around town, it's all 38. If you live near 38, you will not sleep peacefully. At night it is a straight stretch of unused road, and road rallys were a frequent occurence. It's a major route so even if it's not a rally there's constantly semi trucks, ricers, pavement princesses, and generally bad sounding cars all hours of the day. Liable to get worse as traffic increases. If you don't live near 38, you'll have to get out of your neighborhood to get to 38, then get somewhere. There is no tram system and the bus system is primarily for 38. They've paved some sections recently but despite it being the biggest road in their town they still can't maintain it well. It will destroy your cars suspension system and you will hate coming home. There is not much in the way of biking to get places, you will most likely be killed.

If you want single family zoning or "dense" """"luxury"""" apartments, great. That's all Tewksbury has. Your rent goes up as much as possible every year and they don't care. Of the complexes I looked at, the cheapest one raised prices over $600/month over two years and never had any vacancy. Consider the people that you'll have living in that town. They're either wage slaves or isolated older lower middle class that tend to be very tribal and only come out of the woodwork to resist change. I met some nice people there but in terms of community it's harder to find. The long term residents had community before it got to be such a mess so they still feel it's available but what they know is not what you will get.

In terms of recreation, you go elsewhere. Every other town or city in the area has better nature to see and better activities to partake in. The restaurants are mid-tier at best. People say they're good but I tried most of them and wasn't very impressed. They're not bad, but not great.

In terms of looks, their town hall is ok, but anything outside of that is commercial hell scape. Nothing but road and roadside businesses. You quickly get the feeling that you're not supposed to be in the town unless you're spending money.

For politics, I can't say much because I'm not a statistician. What I did see was multiple days of massive Trump rallies at the intersection of Main and Livingston (or somewhere near 38 is repetitive) that made me scared to drive, and rolling convoys for Trump going through the town at 3-5mph. Incessant honking, people blocking roads and intimidating drivers, extremely unsafe conditions. No police action, and the rallies were most likely permitted. These are things I saw, not my personal politics. Regardless of my view Tewksbury allows dangerous conditions to develop depending on who's organizing.

And the kicker? They want Andover prices to live there. They offer next to no reason to pick them over any other city or town but expect some of the highest home prices in the county.

Tewksbury is a massive headache to get around and exist in, and a strip mall at its core. It's better to drive past it on the highway than drive down its roads, and better to drive through it than it is to live there. I've only been back a few times and absolutely do not miss it.

If you're looking for that area, consider Billerica first, then Wilmington. Farther north is Lowell. There's also North Reading, and farther away is Chelmsford, North Andover, and Haverhill.

If you really have to live there, the bright spots are Wilmington Transmission for car service, and Villa Roma's barbecue chicken pizza. Notable entries include Vic's Waffle House and the fresh orange juice, Donnas, and the $5 chicken burrito Mondays at Mexica.

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pk5489 t1_j9cc4px wrote

As others have mentioned, home values are slightly less than surrounding communities (Wilmington for example, but Wilmington has better schools according to people who seem to know and is closer to Boston). I bet that means your home will gain even more value than surrounding towns over the next ten years. As people get priced out of towns like Wilmington, Reading etc., they will look to Tewksbury and that will drive up costs and the value of your house.

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Whiplash92123 t1_j9gfvt4 wrote

I grew up there. It’s close to multiple highways and without traffic you can get to Boston within a half hour or so. Outside of that, there isn’t much in town. Multiple pizza places (like most towns), few Chinese spots.

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no_clipping t1_j9b4hk2 wrote

There's a good variety of locales in the state and it's hard to give any real input here without knowing what you want. But in my opinion at least I wouldn't recommend moving there. The entire corridor from Boston to Lowell just kind of sucks. You get a lot of the cons of densely populated areas without much in the way of pros. It's expensive, public transit isn't great, traffic is consistently a nightmare and one way or another you're going to have to drive 30 minutes to an hour in either direction to go to anything fun.

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singalong37 t1_j9df9rw wrote

Many posts in this thread about driving— where you can get to, easy access, or about the traffic. Seems like the dominant experience— the kind of suburb where everybody drives everywhere and the thing you can think of to say about Tewksbury has to do with driving.

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