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Scribblr t1_jd86zev wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Cheap house. Under 300k. You’re not a homeowner because you’re lazy…. by fuertepqek

So was it the shitty part of Springfield or the shitty part of Fall River?

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BasicDesignAdvice t1_jd89sz3 wrote

I too can afford a house in a place that I don't want to live, offers no work in my field, is hours away from my family and friends, and requires my children have their lives turned upside down.

So tired of this. The market should be able to bear some level of choice from consumers. The solution of "move far away" is not a good one, and definitely does not work for everyone.

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BasicDesignAdvice t1_jd8z9pk wrote

I actually don't live in Boston. I live pretty well outside of it but no town near me has sub-500k houses either.

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UltravioletClearance t1_jd9jzs6 wrote

Theres a huge gap between "spreading out a little" and moving 100 miles away into a totally separate metro area. When my parents got priced out of Weymouth they could afford to move to Taunton, about 35 miles south of Boston. At the time (1990) you could get to Boston via Route 24 in under an hour. Now that drive is over two hours one way, not that it even matters because I can't afford Taunton prices even though I make 3x what my parents made at the time adjusted for inflation.

Getting priced out and moving further away from Boston isn't new. The problem is it's been going on for so long there's nowhere left to move to. In 20 years Springfield will be just as expensive as Boston and we will be telling our kids to quit complaining, move to Albany, and enjoy that 4 hour one-way commute.

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LiaFromBoston t1_jd9cgys wrote

I mean what do you want people to do, spend 6 hours a day stuck in traffic commuting from Manchester or Deerfield? If we at least had good regional rail here then it might be doable but we can't have nice things in Mass.

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thefool808 t1_jd8damv wrote

I'd assume, even if we build a shitload of housing in and around Boston, it's still going to be more expensive than western MA. If moving isn't an option for whatever reason, then you're always going to be paying that premium. It doesn't make sense to complain about having the choice to move just because that choice isn't available to you for whatever reason.

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FishingElectrician t1_jd8jy0o wrote

Your just saying what everyone does not want to hear, nobody would bat an eye if we're were talking about L.A.

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BasicDesignAdvice t1_jd9038k wrote

Have you lived in LA? I have. People feel exactly the same. They want to own a home and have places they want to live.....to be close to friends and family.

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TerryPistachio t1_jd8ocnf wrote

A lot of people depend on family for child care. 3 hour commute for grandma to watch the kids is unreasonable

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TerryPistachio t1_jd8r00z wrote

Yes no family with children under 7 should own a house.

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Mortgages even for expensive homes can be less than rent here. Especially with an FHA.

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TerryPistachio t1_jd8wmvy wrote

It seems you dont really know what you meant

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TerryPistachio t1_jd8xgao wrote

Why do you feel the need to be so unpleasant to strangers on the internet? Why act like such a tough guy?

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You're taking what I said to an extreme example. Of course, if they literally can't buy a house they can't buy a house. That's not who I'm talking about.

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TerryPistachio t1_jd8y708 wrote

Or maybe I misinterpreted what you said. Just like you are misinterpreting what I said.

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When I bought a home child care was not significantly less expensive in western MA. In fact they're still some of the most expensive in the entire country. So by moving far from family you aren't avoiding that cost. Childcare is WAY too expensive in this state.

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TerryPistachio t1_jd95rj7 wrote

>But you argued that I didn't know what I said? Curious.

Yeah you seemed to be arguing in bad faith. You seem to still be because I clarified those are not the people I'm talking about.

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TerryPistachio t1_jd96ash wrote

Could you elaborate on what you mean by double down? Are you referring to when I admit I misunderstood you?

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I don't understand how I doubled down. I now know that's not what you meant. When I wrote that I thought you were arguing in bad faith.

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Im confused.

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TerryPistachio t1_jd9a9rd wrote

Yeah, I dont think that anymore. I did when I wrote it. Upon further elaboration, I realized I misinterpreted what you said.

Kind of strange to ignore that part.

As well as this part that you are literally responding to:

>I now know that's not what you meant. When I wrote that I thought you were arguing in bad faith.

I was wrong- I admit that. Why do you want to argue about what I said that I already admit was wrong?

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Left-Rooster9600 t1_jd9jut4 wrote

Why not if they can afford it?

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Left-Rooster9600 t1_jd9oitm wrote

There are many reasons to depend on family for child care that aren't money.

I'm on call constantly. I drop my kids at my parents in laws with no notice multiple times a week sometimes. I pay a whole lot for day care but outside those hours I depend on family.

>If you absolutely need your parents to provide child care, as in you couldn't afford to send your kids to a daycare/after-school care, you aren't earning enough to maintain a house.

I don't think anyone here thinks if you don't have money to buy a house you should buy a house... You can't, it's not really an opinion just a fact

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Left-Rooster9600 t1_jd9qui6 wrote

>Rough situation

I wouldn't say so! I work a whole lot less than 40 hours a week, and make enough that the nearly 25,000 in daycare is ok. That's for two kids and I also get to spend 4 days a week with them (only in daycare for 3 days) unless of course I get a call.

Overall I spend more time with my kids than almost anyone I know

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Left-Rooster9600 t1_jd9r9af wrote

>>They will let you buy a house even if you can't afford to keep it up. I was pre-approved for a mortgage that was half my income. It's crazy.

What's truly crazy is that people pay more than half their income just to rent a place. Tough to have an option not too if you don't make much money.

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BasicDesignAdvice t1_jd8zw03 wrote

> I also didn't tell anyone to move so I don't know what the fuck you are tired of......

Please don't pretend the spirit of your previous comments in this thread were not "well just do what I did and your can have a house." That insults the intelligence of everyone reading, and is obnoxious pedantry.

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Scribblr t1_jd8o7ua wrote

Central Mass used to be that way too, but now there aren’t even any basic 2BRs for under 400k.

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SugarSecure655 t1_jd8gdbm wrote

What part of Springfield because this is cheap for a decent area?

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SugarSecure655 t1_jd8j5hz wrote

It's cheap did it need a lot of work. I think the average price for a house is 300K. in a decent area. Springfield has really gone downhill though.

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