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ky1e t1_jd8gt5t wrote

I found it hard to read that material, and I’ve been reflecting on my actions in all this. I didn’t know very much about them when I added them and I agreed when they asked for the full set of permissions. I put my trust in them. Did not do proper diligence, did not anticipate this situation at all.

The pseudonymous stuff has its advantages and disadvantages, I have met very genuine and kind people on here but there is always the chance that someone is not who they initially appear to be.

I am concerned about how many other accounts this person has and if they are doing the same in any more communities.

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caminandoennubes OP t1_jd8hc3k wrote

Don't beat yourself up! The way everyone fought & raised hell should show you how it was a community worth fighting & raising hell for, and I think that shows people appreciate your mod approach. (Also thank you for not taking this down, I was worried it was off-topic, this is so cathartic.)

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ky1e t1_jd8hrhe wrote

Sticking with transparency, won’t be removing meta posts. The account has been deleted so as much as I don’t want to amplify any harassment going their way, they have taken action to not receive more harassment, anyway…

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Girafferage t1_jd8jh1b wrote

Its incredibly hard to determine who somebody really is even in real life in your day to day with people you see constantly. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself about the situation. You did what was right and you are actively working to fix any lingering issues. Id say your actions were justified in trying to help your community and adding a new mod who you believed would do that, and as soon as you saw the situation in the sub you acted quickly, and even engaged in the side sub I created and let people know what was going on and what you were doing to fix it.
Don't put this on you. There is honestly not a lot of people moderating who would have been as diligent and respectful through this.

I would add however, it may be best to not ever hand off the top mod position so there is always an ultimate option to have somebody that I think we can all agree is pretty sane and reasonable who is able to handle any moderator related issues. Any new mods you bring in will be able to do anything you would anyway given the permissions, but they wont be able to remove you, and you will still be able to remove them. Its really nice to have that failsafe in place.

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ky1e t1_jd8q44l wrote

Reddit made a "code of conduct" for moderators last year, one of the things mods are not supposed to do is "camp" on subreddits. I don't intend to remain as top mod here "forever." I was made top mod when the last one decided to leave, this was pre-pandemic and I think before the sub count was above 100k.

I see the importance of having someone reasonable at the top but I don't wish it on anyone lol.

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Graflex01867 t1_jdagcky wrote

The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, #2)

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Girafferage t1_jd8ubok wrote

Well, as long as they have been vetted and maybe been around for a good long while. I cant imagine how this sub would have degraded had the other mod been made top mod.

Maybe when the time comes you could have both the current mods of the sub and the community take a vote and then use the outcomes as a good starting point on where to go next.

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Mnemon-TORreport t1_jd8tss7 wrote

At the end of the day, I think the key is that the subreddit rallied, rebounded and is hopefully now in a better place.

Stuff happens but the key is reversing the mistake. And a lot of other folks probably would have yolo'ed and never come back. So cheers for keeping your ear to the ground.

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ky1e t1_jd9wgvo wrote

Cheers. Been on some extra long walks thinking on this stuff. It does not seem like Reddit itself has a functional mechanism for making sure that their generic subreddits like r/massachusetts have sensible leadership.

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majoroutage t1_jda3ekf wrote

Sadly I'm not even sure they have an interest in making sure subs like this have reasonable leadership.

Their approach may be subjectively "reasonable" to them, but it just seems like another avenue to help sway the opinions of the masses however it favors them.

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caminandoennubes OP t1_jdagr7w wrote

> It does not seem like Reddit itself has a functional mechanism for making sure that their generic subreddits like r/massachusetts have sensible leadership.

Does anything?

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caminandoennubes OP t1_jdagthi wrote

> the subreddit rallied, rebounded and is hopefully now in a better place.

PEACE ONLY UNDER LIBERTY!

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