Submitted by nofog2234 t3_xtdnbn in massachusetts
itallendsintears t1_iqph5f8 wrote
Screw springfield it’s all about Holyoke
atmc80 t1_iqqsp79 wrote
Holyoker here. Good comment. The two cities are really one urban area though. Holyoke has a much better chance with a successful Springfield. And the area seems more oriented toward Hartford & NYC metro than Boston in many aspects.
Increased rail offerings are a good start. Notable that I could jump on a train from Holyoke to Grand Central easier than getting into South Station.
itallendsintears t1_iqqtiep wrote
Holyoke has awesome highway access without having a highway plow through it, and has an infinitely better city design then springfield does. It’s closer to the five colleges and has has a freaking mountain and canals. It’s not even close. It’s always been the better city
Forest park is the only part of springfield that has a good vibe imo. Maybe some parts of the south end but it’s nothing you’d want to live in.
jphanny84 t1_iqtl0kb wrote
Bro holyoke used to be nice 50 60 years ago. It's a hell hole now. Holyoke literally supplied all of western ma and the surrounding states with heroin for the past 10 years. I'd move out of state before I'd put my kids in holyoke schools.
itallendsintears t1_iqw5ofr wrote
Well thank all the gods I don’t have kids then because I’d hate to make decisions based on shit like that
11BMasshole t1_iqr37cx wrote
Holyoke is the cesspool of Western Mass. I don’t know of anyone who actively looks to buy a house there. The schools are ranked at the bottom of the state rankings. A drive down Main Street tells you all you need to know about Holyoke.
itallendsintears t1_iqr7rrs wrote
Wrong.
11BMasshole t1_iqr8nzl wrote
Absolutely not wrong. Hell I’d even say Holyoke isn’t even top ten in Hampden County of desirable places to live.
Longmeadow East Longmeadow Wilbraham Ludlow West Springfield Agawam Westfield Southwick Hampden Chicopee Springfield And Holyoke would fall somewhere down below all of these places.
itallendsintears t1_iqr96c9 wrote
You just listed a bunch of suburban hellholes nobody outside of boomers and people with young families want to live. I lived in East longmeadow. Absolutely hated it. Rolling blackouts everytime it sprinkles. And longmeadow infrastructure is equally crap. Holyoke has hydroelectric and a water reservoir on mt tom. You want to cling to some capitalistic scam where everyone in your neighborhood has an Audi, have a blast.
11BMasshole t1_iqr9tek wrote
Better than living in a rundown semi urban hellhole. 90% of Holyoke is a burnt up ghetto. I used to own a building on South Canal street. Sold it for Pennie’s on the dollar after the 3rd fire and 2nd dead body found. There’s nothing redeeming about Holyoke. Keep telling yourself you love it there , but we all know in reality it’s the only place you can afford.
itallendsintears t1_iqra2nu wrote
Cute. Don’t you have a landscaper to pay or some golf balls to drive? Gag
scarwig t1_iqs4tt2 wrote
Goes to show youve only "gone down main St"
YokeGuy413 t1_iqxqw7j wrote
Really? Because Holyoke houses are selling at a quicker rate than Northampton or Easthampton. Plenty of people moving into Holyoke and starting to send their kids to HPS because of the dual language schools.
11BMasshole t1_iqxr7pu wrote
More and Cheaper inventory in Holyoke. People who can afford to get out do. Those who can only afford Holyoke make that sacrifice for home ownership. No one who values their child’s education is willfully sending them to HPS.
YokeGuy413 t1_iqxs33y wrote
Except people are willingly sending their kids to HPS. I know families that have chosen HPS who would have decided to school choice out but because of the dual language programs are now staying.
11BMasshole t1_iqxsefj wrote
You can believe what fallacy you want. But the reality is that the only people moving to Holyoke are doing so because that’s all they could afford. Same as the schools, they are sending them there because that’s where they could afford to live.
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