bionicN t1_iu15qkp wrote on October 27, 2022 at 7:57 PM

Reply to comment by [deleted] in PSA: It's the end of the month, watch out for cops trying to catch you speeding. by [deleted]

do we? do you have anything other than feelings to show that trend?

mayyyyyybe people that complain about tickets could try, I dunno, not speeding?

as I watch people blow through my neighborhood with a limit of 25mph at 40mph, I wish there were quotas and I wish they were higher. they clearly aren't stopping enough people, because we've normalized that speeding through residential and urban areas is just fine.

leave the speeding to a track or an empty highway, and if you choose the latter, the risk of a ticket is the price you pay.

[deleted] OP t1_iu1jjb4 wrote on October 27, 2022 at 9:27 PM

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bionicN t1_iu200bb wrote on October 27, 2022 at 11:29 PM

yeah, I'm being a little over the top. but I want there to be enough enforcement that people take the hint.

I have a 1 mile trip to take my toddler to daycare, 80% of which is 25mph residential streets with several uncontrolled intersections. no lights, no stop signs. the rest is 35mph local arterial roads that some people go 50mph on if traffic allows it. these aren't empty places - I pass a playground, coffee shop, hardware store, Dr office, etc.

now that he's old enough to walk or be on his bike instead of be in the stroller, it's really nailing in that most of our conversation is "watch out for cars, watch out for that car, watch out for that person that's going to blow the stop sign, look wayyyyy up the street for people going too fast..."

no one cares. speeding is normalized. gotta get to that dunks drive thru 3 min earlier. US has a high pedestrian death rate compared to our peers, and we're getting worse.

I don't care if someone speeds on an empty road. but if you're around people, slow the fuck down.

[deleted] OP t1_iu2b84w wrote on October 28, 2022 at 12:55 AM

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bionicN t1_iu4zrse wrote on October 28, 2022 at 4:19 PM

yeah, consistent enforcement would make everyone happy. at least you'd know what to expect. well said.

the point of my first link was to show the relationship between speed and injury/death. those extra 10mph are meaningful. the fact that it's in Florida doesn't change the relationship, and I only linked an old study simply because my quick searching only had newer studies showing basically the same thing in link unfriendly pdf format.

the second link is absolutely anti car, but makes its point with data, and that data is consistent with other trends. would it be better to just quote part of their abstract?

> In 2018, pedestrian fatality rates per km in the USA were 5–10 times higher than in the other four countries; cyclist fatality rates per km in the USA were 4–7 times higher. The gap in walking and cycling fatality rates between the USA and the other countries increased over the entire 28-year period, but especially from 2010 to 2018.

and yes, enforcement isn't the only or even the best way to address this. road design is a better option.