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endofthered01674 t1_iu1z2mi wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Who is is that keeps dumping hundreds of people in unsuspecting Massachusetts towns? by VulcanTrekkie45

As the person who also replied mentioned, most border towns are way way overwhelmed. They're doing their best to help both the people crossing over and those towns who really do a ton to help them.

I don’t think a lot of people who live far away from border states realize the amount of effort localities put into trying to help these people. It's just too tall a task to do it well. ICE is equipped to turn people away, not house them.

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VulcanTrekkie45 OP t1_iu1zlf5 wrote

So just revoke these people’s autonomy? I mean how would you feel if the government told you you had to just up and move to god knows where at a moment’s notice?

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ReporterOther2179 t1_iu2957h wrote

In the sense that they are under court order their autonomy is limited. Those claiming asylum because of the horrific conditions in the old country have a date on which they appear in front of a court to argue their case. They are released but it is understood that they are assetless so housing is arranged. The housing on the border being full up they are legally by the book shuffled off to other locales. We’re all one country you know, immigrants are a Massachusetts problem too. So these people are pretty much free range until their court date for which the vast majority do appear because they don’t want to screw up their one chance at the Golden Ticket. All of this is an insane way to handle the problem but the Republicans have been screwing over any reform since Reagan, all while conditions fester South of us because of all the billions in drug money we send them.

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VulcanTrekkie45 OP t1_iu29kth wrote

If there’s a court date, shipping them thousands of miles away becomes even more problematic. Are they on the hook for getting back to the border to appear in court? Do you have any idea how expensive travel is these days?

And I don’t know how to explain this to you, but just because something is legal doesn’t make it right. After all, if this is being done by a government entity, it’s definitely legal and definitely wrong.

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ReporterOther2179 t1_iu2ig68 wrote

I’m not much interested in fantasy.

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VulcanTrekkie45 OP t1_iu2iloq wrote

Wait till you find out laws can change. Does your moral compass change with them?

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ReporterOther2179 t1_iu2ipr1 wrote

Still not much interested in fantasy.

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PM_me_PMs_plox t1_iu35fqb wrote

I don't think anyone was forced to move. They can stay where they are, but they'll be homeless instead of homed.

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endofthered01674 t1_iu23o8u wrote

Well, the issue is created by too many people crossing illegally (hence the asylum claims, as it forces the system to accommodate them in the meantime). I'm all for people wanting to move here, we just need to disincentivize people coming in droves and ultimately doing it the right way by applying etc. We just can't handle it, and it's not really fair on anyone involved. Nor is the status quo at all sustainable.

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VulcanTrekkie45 OP t1_iu26iy8 wrote

Requesting asylum and immigration are basic human rights, but okay…

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