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Fuzzy-Scar3055 t1_it47nnm wrote

Some people take it too far. This shouldn’t be allowed since it’s not public property; it’s government property. Someone hung (no pun intended) this woman being hung on a traffic sign, which is owned by the MASS DOT.

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stinkbeast666 t1_it48apb wrote

When did we make the jump from "spooky harvest time" and "yearly cycle of death and rebirth" to full blown "grisly murder scene"?

This stuff is just trashy.

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89DEALS t1_it4gbuw wrote

Nothing to see here, just another soul-less levitating ginger.

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chevalier716 t1_it4m5ou wrote

That supposed to be Max from Stranger Things?

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Adamthe_Warlock t1_it4mtar wrote

Is he disturbed or just sort of looking away? Kind of seems like a leap

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BeeKynder01970 t1_it4sz24 wrote

I drove by this recently and it is absolutely Not hung from a stop sign. It is in someone's property. It's from the TV show Stranger Things, and it looks cheesy and not at all scary when you see it in person. Quit making a big deal of something harmless.

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FeralGinger t1_it4wrbk wrote

As a ginger, I feel the need to be pedantic and point out that we DO have souls.... It's just that we're not born with our own and have to harvest them from someone else.

It's not quite as comfy as being born with one, but on the bright side I've got a closet full I can put on when this one gets boring. So I guess you win some, you lose some.

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Drew2248 t1_it4yn7c wrote

I get that the intention is to be kind of edgy but it is a mannikin of a person who is being lynched. I'd cut it down. It's really not funny. What next? Mannikins of women being raped? Hah hah hah, look at that broad being raped!

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Comfortable_Plant667 t1_it4zzvb wrote

It may only be obvious people who watch the show, but to others this appears like an effigy of a child hanging. The doll's clothing is not distinctive enough to look like it's "from" anything. Suicide prevention teaches the rest of us who are left behind by suicides that depictions of hanging can shock us into memories of grief and loss. These are things that are really important to keep in mind when putting out decorations on a public street. People with antisocial personality disorder already know this and get a thrill from stoking a negative reaction in bystanders. Halloween seems to bring out the worst in some people.

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smashy_smashy t1_it51b6j wrote

My neighbor has a bloody dead baby coming out of a bag in their yard. It’s certainly a choice. I thought it was funny because I like disturbing humor, but I am pretty mad about it for people who’ve lost a baby who are going to walk by it. Also my 6 year old was pretty disturbed by it.

I don’t know. I just don’t think I should expose other people to my morbid humor unwillingly so I wouldn’t put something out like that.

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geminimad4 t1_it52qtb wrote

100% agree. I first starting seeing the fake bloody dismembered feet and hands wrapped in supermarket meat packaging around 15 or so years ago at the popup Halloween stores. Mummies and ghouls are one thing, but glorified carnage is too much.

I anticipate that this comment will be hidden with downvotes.

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RevengencerAlf t1_it57xdq wrote

For starters Netflix doesn't have ads and Spotify does. Spotify also does not generally make or license their own content. So even though it is technically not accurate to say grossing when you are including streaming plays of songs you can kind of get maybe close enough by drawing a direct comparison to the compensation agreements and the payment that goes to artists and record labels when Spotify plays their song. But it's still really not right.

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RevengencerAlf t1_it58ctp wrote

Dexter was a popular TV show at one point and I feel like I would be out of line if I put a plastic wrapped bloody corpse in a bathtub on my front lawn. I'm on the fence over whether this isn't poor enough taste to be a problem. I'm personally not bothered by things almost ever so I have a hard time judging what's appropriate in the context of society in general, something being a reference to a TV show doesn't magically make it fine if it otherwise wouldn't be.

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Maddcapp t1_it5dqlb wrote

It’s a levitating kid from a show. Do we really need to get outraged over what is likely some young fans having fun and being creative?

There’s plenty to be upset by in the world. This isn’t one of them.

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RevengencerAlf t1_it5dr57 wrote

Those are by definition not gross sales. It makes sense to combine them with the actual sales from CD as well as other sources of royalty for an overall metric of apparent success, and that's exactly what they do now when they chart songs and albums, but it's not "gross" anything.

When a movie "grosses" $100M in a weekend, it literally means people went and spent $100M on tickets to see that movie. Straight up. It's unfortunately just a term people repeat where it applies because they've heard it used in a close context but don't understands why it doesn't apply. Pedantic I know but I lack the self control to ignore it.

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dashchai t1_it5gu0z wrote

That is super disturbing.

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vanquish0916 t1_it5jxwm wrote

When I was about 8, I saw a Halloween decoration like this hanging in the garage at an apartment my dad managed at the time. At least that's what he told me at the time. Years later he told me it was a tenant that hung himself. Happy Halloween!

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AchillesDev t1_it5m2ek wrote

> I feel like I would be out of line if I put a plastic wrapped bloody corpse in a bathtub on my front lawn.

This would’ve been expected in the neighborhoods I grew up in here. Unless it was a real corpse, that would be a little bit out of line I guess.

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RevengencerAlf t1_it5m7yt wrote

Revenue.

The word you're actually looking for is revenue.

Money that comes from things like royalties and usage agreements are generally not sales and certainly not gross sales.

Of course all this is an irrelevant digression from the fact that "stranger things" doesn't "gross" anything because it is streamed, universally, because a view of it generates no discrete payment or revenue of any kind. The best you can do is look at its share of viewing hours which is not "grossing" anything and estimate how much it plays a role in the overall value proposition for the average netflix subscriber.

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AchillesDev t1_it5md8r wrote

We were doing this in our neighborhoods in the 90s. Definitely much further back than 15 years ago, but we also had Halloween Outlet so we had ample resources to do it big.

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AchillesDev t1_it5mkxg wrote

ITT: people who didn’t grow up celebrating Halloween in MA. A levitating character from a show is tame compared to some of the decorations we and our neighbors would put up (plus the in-home haunted houses) throughout the 90s.

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panpan_the_good_bear t1_it6yeek wrote

I think that if you had found a hung family member or knew someone who had, you may feel differently so perhaps wait on your judgement that this outrage is manufactured, not the natural response to seeing something distressing.

Episodes of Stranger Things alone have triggered people and made the show impossible to watch for some so even if it was more clearly Max, it could still cause distress, though I think to a somewhat lesser extent of the intention was clearer.

As it stands however, it looks like a person hanging from a tree, a visceral image for people with loved ones who have died in similar ways, which is a large number since approximately 800,000 people die annually to suicide and most of them had someone, in some cases many people, who cared for them, a person who found their body, and usually multiple people involved in the removal and care of their body. That is a lot of trauma that needs to be considered when putting up Halloween decor. I get that creepy is fun, but not at the expense of my neighbors' mental health.

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steveyp2013 t1_it70xjt wrote

I think that's kind of the point thought.

There's a lot of us who haven't seen it, and this is gonna just look like a child being hanged.

I mean, I don't think it's disgusting or anything, but I think it needing a description to NOT look like a hanged child means it's poor taste.

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smashy_smashy t1_it7aca2 wrote

Nah, I’m going to stay. If you knew how to read, you’d see that I thought it was funny. I was just implying that I’m sure other “helicopter citizens” are going to say something. But again, you don’t know how to read so I’m sure this comment too will go over your head.

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[deleted] t1_it7b490 wrote

Completely understood the preceding attempt to cop out and not come across as being other people’s helicopter nanny.

Mind your business, cry some tears, or go back to England.

Good luck out there snowflake! It’s a big bad world out there isn’t it 🥴

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FuzzAldrin36 t1_it7dk3t wrote

Hey! Glad you're staying!

Could you imagine if all of us in this country with the emotional intelligence to see things from several several perspectives and employ empathy all packed up and went "back to" whatever rando country today's Internet Idiot prescribed? What a thought! 😂

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[deleted] t1_it7dvss wrote

Yeah!!! Internet points!! You won! You did it!

Quick, put your weak little baby in a bubble before they’re traumatized by Halloween!

Sounds like you need a Marblehead Mommy Facebook group to complain to, stay safe out there in that big bad world outside of your sheltered bubble! We’ll all be rootin for ya!

It’s fucken crazy the kind of weak and timid little spawn (you) that your culture has created, and those you continue to rot out (your kid), no wonder you’re all afraid of life. What a sad way to live. Enjoy that, have fun

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Maddcapp t1_it7dx7v wrote

I’m trying to be understanding of your point. And if you include yourself in that category of people who have experienced a family member who’s committed suicide I honestly I am very sorry and sympathetic to that.

My response though would be, should we no longer be allowed to depict suicide in movies and TV shows, or books? Following that logic, maybe Halloween decorations should be banned in total because just walking through a shop equates to witnessing a massacre.

My point is that we can’t “trigger proof” the world. It’s not the world’s responsibility to not trigger anyone. If someone is so traumatized that seeing a Halloween decoration sends them into depression, then I think that’s an issue for them to overcome personally.

With respect, does that sound reasonable?

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erwachen t1_it7h525 wrote

There's a house nearby that has a decoration of a dead baby in a spooky bassinet and it freaks me the fuck out and upsets me and my husband.

I'm a married woman who isn't going to have children and has a pretty dark and liberal sense of humor but I find it super gross to look at. Also, yes, it's traumatic to people who have experienced miscarriage or infant deaths.

Just put up some pumpkins or Frankenstein or your favorite horror character, the fuq.

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panpan_the_good_bear t1_it7rm6k wrote

I think there is a clear distinction between a Halloween store, a fully decked out house with the music and the full decor, cobwebs, spiders, and other additional context is different than seeing a child-sized body hanging in a bunch of trees at a crosswalk used by children and no other contextual-building devices such as a Grandfather clock, Max's friends, Vecna, anything to say this is a character from that RIDICULOUSLY popular Netflix show, NOT a dead child. I think that is very reasonable.

That context may not be necessary for people who aren't immediately effected by what they see, for example the top comments mentioning how, upon closer inspection, they realized it was likely meant to be Max. It took time, time that people suffering loss or other traumas don't have, they'd see the body and instantly be brought back to their loved one with all of the feelings and pain at once. Building the context gives their mind time to say "Oh neat! Halloween decorations! Oh that must be from Stranger Things?... Not my jam, but I'm glad others are having fun." Rather than "Oh God! Is that child okay?!?" Which would be a sign of on-going awareness for dangers, parents, care-givers, doctors, teachers, crossing guards, etc. who are in charge of child safety, or be pushed back into old trauma.

If you saw a squished body on the pavement outside of a skyscraper with no context would that be a Halloween decoration or a tragedy? Context is KEY!

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panpan_the_good_bear t1_it7slj1 wrote

Killjoy, I know. Sorry, I just love my loved ones, know that they hurt because of carelessness, and want to be the change I wanna see, right? If that means raining on careless Halloween decorations, I will. Sorry that's not very fun. I work with kids all day so I have a lot of practice saying, "Sorry, but that's not how we treat people. We can be kinder." I hope you're Halloween decor is clearly Halloween decor and that everyone in your neighborhood has fun being the correct level of frightened, not the heart-pain kind.

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Maddcapp t1_it7x8b9 wrote

You changed my mind. I agree with you there should be more context. If at first sight a passerby is shocked and worried if there is a kid who needs help, that's a problem. Thanks for the feedback I understand your point now. Thanks : )

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panpan_the_good_bear t1_it7ynyx wrote

I wasn't expecting that at all, but great! I'm glad. I think being reasonable is the first step and so I always try to go into these just explaining why I, or someone I know intimately, would find this unpleasant and work from there. I'm not trying to ruin Halloween, I promise, or take anything away, just explain why it's not great. We can always improve and make more elaborate displays 🙂

Tldr; My solution: MORE HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS Lol.

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Maddcapp t1_it8asu1 wrote

Haha. Yeah this is what really got me:
If you saw a squished body on the pavement outside of a skyscraper with no context would that be a Halloween decoration or a tragedy? Context is KEY!

I always say context is key, so you gave me a dose of my own medicine. Many thanks! And happy Halloween!

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LowkeyPony t1_it8k9za wrote

IKR?! We have a skeleton that we have out on the porch year round. We dress them in clothes befitting whatever holiday is coming. On Halloween, since we now have two of the fun plastic bone guys, we are getting them married. I can only guess that there are some folks that walk, or drive by our home year round and have been offended by them. I mean the day I found "The Future" shirt at Target I will admit I thought "Is this too much?" But I bought it and put it on the main skeleton. My neighbors loved it. There are other streets people can take. Heck my dad, back in the 80's made all kinds of stuff to put in the field, and even took time to enjoy scaring the piss out of us kids walking by. These days some "Halloween should be cute not scary" Karen would probably leave a note on the front door

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Apprehensive-Hat-494 t1_it9ncqy wrote

Pretty sure that people hanging from trees in the US has a bit of a different history than skeletons and ghosts...

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