Submitted by baron_muchhumpin t3_z7gzsb in massachusetts
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ajafarzadeh t1_iy7ovpd wrote
This is the answer, and it’s most likely aerial surveying work for utilities, land surveys, or environmental analysis.
A similar aircraft was running the same patterns over the Lynn/Revere/Salem area a few weeks back.
Unique-Public-8594 t1_iy7xgdg wrote
Try sending the company a message. I asked once, in that case, it was counting elk.
j33pwrangler t1_iy82kba wrote
Sounds like a bunch of bull.
pjk922 t1_iy876qc wrote
A few does too
tacoplayer t1_iy8b5xl wrote
They were elk, not bulls
j33pwrangler t1_iy8bn79 wrote
A male elk is a bull.
tacoplayer t1_iy8iwpv wrote
Oh
drail18 t1_iy8wkll wrote
No bull?
n8loller t1_iy871u2 wrote
Fascinating
SaintLeppy t1_iy8imbq wrote
Nah it’s definitely looking for treasure
jmcflynn33 t1_iy6ra49 wrote
Signs of any sort of intelligent civilization.
ReeferTurtle t1_iy75osi wrote
Between Clinton and Townsend? Not likely
trALErun t1_iybcrz0 wrote
Beautiful area though! But yeah...
Local_Stuff_Acct t1_iy8jbg5 wrote
People be fucking paranoid... And I am far from a trust the government and/or corporations type person.
Aries appears to specialize in "remote data retrieval, airborne geophysical survey, radar and LiDAR mapping," which is what they're probably doing for some kind of civil engineering or environmental management application. You can download maps of soil type with like 10 foot resolution, foliage maps super detailed topographic info including in some cases foliage height, I'm pretty sure we have bedrock depth data - how do you guys think that stuff happened.
Guys, if the government wanted to know what you were up to, they would ask your phone or Alexa.
If it was doing some kind of broad-reaching law enforcement overreach, it would probably be flying over poor/minority areas.
Edit: /u/baron_muchhumpin since you were wondering and I think mine is the most detailed answer, I'll ping you and offer this example of what data they might be collecting: https://www.mass.gov/info-details/massgis-data-soils-ssurgo-certified-nrcs
buried_lede t1_iy8n84k wrote
Geez, they are simply asked a question.
BasicDesignAdvice t1_iy83pew wrote
I don't think it's looking for anything, just collecting survey data.
JoshSidekick t1_iy8bb0q wrote
Can confirm. I was leaving my house around that time and I heard a faint voice from the sky asking "In the last month, how many of these have you purchased?" and when I looked up it was a guy in a plane with a sign out the window that had a list of grocery products.
FamousButNotReally t1_iy8e6lg wrote
Did you have to throw darts to choose? I got one of these and I couldn't aim for shit
DMoney1133 t1_iy7tzlv wrote
It's imagining. Very routine.
kissmekate48 t1_iy8xuui wrote
Yes, I imagine it is.
Shemsuni t1_iy6qscx wrote
I’m v curious too
bunnybates t1_iyaaj92 wrote
Looks like a pilot dropped their phone somewhere!
deisjj t1_iy6ntcn wrote
Flying presumably
nocolon t1_iy8qehg wrote
If not the repair costs to homes and land is going to be enormous.
negativetim3 t1_iy78ybf wrote
Just an international surveillance company flying over fort Devins… Likely govt contractors testing something…
bemest t1_iy8l9ib wrote
Fort Devens, there’s also an MOA under this track, where I’ve seen it used as a drop zone for training. This is a Navajo, it probably has a large format camera mounted in the belly for high resolution photos.
Jakius t1_iy92i5v wrote
Devens hasnt had active military use for decades though, its just the federal prison now. Which would mean an active MOA still, I suppose.
WhipCityUrchin t1_iy87t5x wrote
Bangin’ ueys.
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SEND-YOUR-PII t1_iy6xyvq wrote
Just a survey. Maybe LiDAR, maybe aerial imagery. Likely for an exceedingly boring thing, like an ortho photo provider updating imagery every few years.
SLEEyawnPY t1_iy8kgob wrote
One of the largest high-voltage transmission line networks in central MA runs approximately north-south just to the west of that flight path, so maybe surveying for the utility company. Seems too far away for doing direct inspection, which I think are usually done by helicopter
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AlpineLace t1_iy6r3v9 wrote
Looks like the old cassette tape symbol lol
UserNameNotOnList t1_iy7pb26 wrote
So it's, ah, making crop circles for radar operators???
bubalusarnee t1_iy74g4e wrote
Hi res aerial photography or mm wave imaging
sircheesecake3 t1_iy7te2k wrote
It’s trying to draw a set of glasses so you’ll click on that RayBans ad /s
2much2often t1_iy6icek wrote
Looks like practice.
TheSaltySeas t1_iy747h3 wrote
It's best
borkmeister t1_iy88jo2 wrote
Given the proximity to Ft. Devens I would suggest it's serving as a target/calibration aircraft for some sensor system that is being proven out or some sensing modality that is being developed.
posternutbag423 t1_iy84575 wrote
Shark spotting
pslatt t1_iy8mhte wrote
I saw this too. It was actually is looping over my house in the southern part of the circuit so I saw this plane visually. I counted 26 loops and they were extremely precise, so I am guessing some sort of surveying equipment. It went on for a couple of hours.
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rdwytom t1_iy83haj wrote
Could be just practicing take-offs and landings.
RandomredditHero t1_iy89qpi wrote
I thought this at first too but it seems like way more air space than is needed for that; don't know for sure though, would have to ask my friend that is a pilot
SynbiosVyse t1_iy87nfm wrote
Did it come from Hanscom?
wademcgillis t1_iy89jwx wrote
Its best.
kjmass1 t1_iy8bnrl wrote
Mowing the air. Nice stripes.
Putrid-Home404 t1_iy8bs57 wrote
Thought they were trying to draw a penis…
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_iy8rxoi wrote
Lidar scanning. It's flying directly over a quarry.
Due-Studio-65 t1_iy94lng wrote
Last time this came up it was a Lidar survey. They use drones over short distances and planes over long ones. A pilot talked about his experience doing these and its just a back and forth lowish flight over an area usually in low traffic hours.
wheelmoney83 t1_iy83mzd wrote
Testing the Flat Earth Theory…
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conviper30 t1_iy89rbl wrote
My brother is a ATC up that way and I asked him and he said "We get them allllll the time. Some work for google and do google maps. Some work for insurance companys and take pictures of peoples yards"
Bmkrocky t1_iy8ap27 wrote
What app is that?
baron_muchhumpin OP t1_iy8bely wrote
FlightAware
Ooops - looked on my phone but that pic was from my tablet - FlightRadar as mentioned below is correct
Pyroechidna1 t1_iy8c2zb wrote
FlightRadar24 innit
Bmkrocky t1_iy97z9o wrote
Thx!
nebirah t1_iy8vjvb wrote
What's the difference?
Bmkrocky t1_iy97xo7 wrote
Thx!
Bmkrocky t1_iy8ybng wrote
Thx!!
Accomplished_Ad2599 t1_iy8blky wrote
Practicing their approach. Learning to line up on a runway is difficult. So I suspect they are just flying an approach vector.
Average_jon_umber t1_iy8oznb wrote
A racetrack pattern
AlphaLax85 t1_iy96wum wrote
Imagine that one on F-Zero X
heklakatla t1_iy8u2bh wrote
5+ hours of loops... I sure hope it was on a programmed auto-pilot...
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N44RL/history/20221129/0059Z/KOWD/KOWD
Looks like it's been flying some interesting patterns in other places too. Check out the + signs it made up in Calgary
Rapierian t1_iy8v8y2 wrote
For the record, even though it's been verified that this is for surveillance, this is also pretty much the pattern flight instructors take students on their first few times up. You have to learn to fly the plane straight before you start to learn to do other things. The number of times I've flown along the coast of plum island...
bubdubarubfub t1_iy8y1cz wrote
Could just be a test flight
ScottyZizzle t1_iy9cgq4 wrote
Flying out of Sterling Airport it is probably pulling a glider. They fly them there a lot.
waffles2go2 t1_iya213w wrote
"laps"?
Codspear t1_iya75wz wrote
A Piper going in loops? Probably a training pilot’s first few practice runs.
greymaresinspace t1_iy857l7 wrote
clearly, its trying to create a giant D**K in the sky
turn your laptop to the left
Willyisfree123 t1_iy8cink wrote
Drag racing
617santiago t1_iy8gta8 wrote
Chemtrails
dudeKhed t1_iy6ixcl wrote
I would say spraying for mosquitoes, but the plane type and altitude don’t match…
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charons-voyage t1_iy7m0uc wrote
Well this plane just sprayed for mosquitoes and I didn’t see any mosquitoes this morning so clearly it’s working!
eggplantsforall t1_iy85tvv wrote
Lisa, I would like to buy your rock!
nocolon t1_iy8qjq9 wrote
Spraying for reindeer.
bemest t1_iy8ldel wrote
Or season
denis0500 t1_iy6rfjo wrote
I believe that is a training flight.
MyFirstMethod t1_iy6zcxe wrote
Flying currents. To keep up the license you have to do touch and goes on the runway and fly the pattern. So you just fly to a couple airports, touch and go, fly back home.
ajafarzadeh t1_iy7orjv wrote
Unfortunately not - this is a surveyor pattern.
tehsecretgoldfish t1_iy7vnpv wrote
holding pattern
Unique-Public-8594 t1_iy7xox7 wrote
I’m thinking holding patterns tend to be circles.
SwingPrestigious695 t1_iy83xbq wrote
Not as often as you'd think. Lots of messy, rough rectangles unless there's a published hold area. The controller gives you a new heading when they have time between communication with other aircraft. This results in straight lines, but at different times each pass, so weird, messy rectangles. There's some good examples in the "real atc" channel on YouTube.
tehsecretgoldfish t1_iy7zut8 wrote
fair enough
Elecrockcity t1_iy7wcg4 wrote
I’ve heard of planes doing this kinda thing while waiting for the arrival of UFOs. There was one in the UK recently where a surveillance plane was doing laps for like a day and then a UFO shows up being trailed by military. Like they knew they were gonna show up. I can’t remember the town but if anybody is curious I’ll go find it.
AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_iy8rwwa wrote
Wow you really believe this nonsense?
Elecrockcity t1_iy8s8s8 wrote
Yeah.
geauxdbl t1_iy6mphq wrote
Surveillance? Or maybe aerial imaging.
Update: that appears to be N44RL, pictures taken by airplane buffs show a logo of Aries Aviation International on the tail.
From the Aries website: Having experience in over 80 countries, Aries can acquire remote sensing data for its customers from any place in the world. Aries’ aircraft have accumulated more than 60,000 hours and have flown more than 18 million line kms of survey.
So… it’s looking for something. I would be really interested in knowing what that is.