Submitted by TheKingsPeace t3_ykolxp in massachusetts
Senator Edward Kennedy died in 2009, after years of distinguished service.
That being said, he did have a decades long weakness for women and booze including the awful Chappaquiddick incident.
He wasn’t all that old when he died and conceivably could have lived until the #Metoo movement of 2017.
If he had, what do you the imagine how that movement and his family as a whole?
At the very least negligent homicide
Made mistakes, but he settled down, cut back on the booze and women, got a good wife, and ultimately he did good things with the life he was given
Lmao, the dude killed a woman. He should be memory holed as the piece of shit he was.
Right? Especially when the way the car went into the water meant that she was alive in an air pocket for upwards of 4 hours at minimum while teddy went to sleep it off and pretend nothing happened until someone saw the car in the water the next day on their own….even then he still stalled for time so the Kennedy family’s fixers could get to work spinning the story before he said anything on the record to anyone
I know. He fucked up in a lot of different ways. I am not defending that or the fact that he did not face justice. He could have remain stuck in that selfish, antisocial, addicted pattern, but eventually he improved and did good with his life
You can debate whether this person should have been given those second chances, but the fact is, society benefits from mercy; society suffers when the redeemable are discarded
But we don't give this option to othersbdo we, should we give him leaniancy because he played for your team? Or should instead we allow others to have a chance to change their ways? I don't have an answer here just an observation.
He didn't give up on himself. I told my young children this story because I wanted them to know there are second chances in life, even if you make mistakes along the way. We are all redeemable
He was from a powerful family, who got him out of trouble, etc. Few people have that. But the inner path is open to those who seek it
To OP’s point, how would he have faired post #metoo? That whole movement was about holding people accountable for allegations made about things they did decades ago.
That's a good question. Unanswerable, since the man is dead. Whan should an ideal me-too perp do? What should society ideally do to them, for punishment or retribution? (I believe justice does not endorse revenge as a proper role of punishment, perhaps since revenge leads to cycles of violence.)
I think the first question is interesting, about what place EK would find himself now. If he got to a place in his life where he stopped pawing at waitresses that's one thing, but what else would he need to do? Go back and apologize to each of them? Teach others to be better? Apologize on TV? Confess?
Or is this conversation about escaping justice for Chappaquiddick? (Which I don't think is me-too, since it is more like manslaughter). I can't think of a good comparison case where the police declined to indict, but the accused somehow gets punished anyway. I haven't really heard of anyone punishing themselves. Isn't punishment something society must do?
It's (D)ifferent for someone like him. He would never have had to apologize.
If his last name was anything other than Kennedy, he'd be thrown aside.
No, but you’d have x number of cocktail waitresses and female staffers saying he grabbed them etc
Did you know that Marilyn Monroe suffered from chronic flatulence?
DBLJ33 t1_iuug5ae wrote
He got away with literal murder.