RevengencerAlf t1_iyd7xjl wrote on November 30, 2022 at 3:16 PM

Reply to comment by redditor420_69 in Jasiel Corriea, ex-Fall River mayor elected at age 23, loses corruption case appeal by ak47workaccnt

Forget underdeveloped brain, at 23 just no human being on earth has the kind of life experience and leadership experience to give them the context needed to make meaningful, properly informed decisions running something as big as a town. Even if they're prodigy smart and understand all the technicalities of the job.

redditor420_69 t1_iydqxnk wrote on November 30, 2022 at 5:22 PM

Right. That’s the only point I was making lol

shallottmirror t1_iydxff7 wrote on November 30, 2022 at 6:03 PM

What if there was a human being from Massachusetts who was elected mayor at age 21, was competent and professional with the job, through the suicide/drug deaths of his mother and brother, through a completely fabricated sex scandal, and left the position just a few years ago to become town manager somewhere else?

Tmonster96 t1_iyfbyey wrote on November 30, 2022 at 11:39 PM

This is pretty specific—what’s the reference I’m missing?

RevengencerAlf t1_iye163p wrote on November 30, 2022 at 6:27 PM

Every situation has its anomalies. I can find you a 12 year old who can drive a car safely but that doesn't mean we should start giving licenses to preteens.

[deleted] t1_iyeotae wrote on November 30, 2022 at 8:58 PM

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RevengencerAlf t1_iyevjrv wrote on November 30, 2022 at 9:42 PM

>I think this is what bothers me about these quippy, short-form discussions like we have on Reddit is you kinda always end up with "okay we all agree on X, right?"

This is a complete false premise word salad. I probably shoudn't even be engaging since you start up so disingenuously but ok, whatever. Just because I didn't write a multi paragraph rant in response to a deliberately nebulous example doesn't mean I'm being "quippy."

Nobody just arbitrarily decided "pre teens can't drive." Age limits were established for driving because the societal cost of bad immature drivers outweighed the negligible benefit of a few standout cases who are good enough to handle it. In fact, the trend has been to increase the age limit over time societal mobility has increased and tolerance for unsafe situations has generally decreased.

Developed, modern societies have all collectively come to roughly the same solution over literal centuries of development that there are things young people are generally not equipped to handle as well as adults and therefore should not be allowed to do due to risk to self and others. We don't let a 12 year old drive because the overwhelming majority of 12 year olds lack the risk assessment skills and appreciation for safety from a mix of lack of experience and biological development. We also set age limits for other things like drinking, other heavy machinery, pornography, and yes, holding certain offices. Likewise private companies like banks and car rentals won't extend certain business opportunities to people who they have similar concerns about because their investment risk is deemed to be too high.

Reasonable arguments can be had about any of those and whether the currently set limits are appropriate, but you're not the fucking arbiter of that conversation and you projecting about wanting to hear the "road of the crowd" or whatever is not fostering that conversation or adding anything of value. If the person who gave that example wants to expand on it and counter my answer to their question with some points of their own, they know where to find this thread. You on the other hand could no doubt find something better to do with your time that wax philosophical about what you think is the tragic downfall political discourse or whatever.