How much do you think they paid the hospital Staff that told them how many injuries there were?

Didn’t even think about that. Doesn’t that nurse have better things to do?

Probably not. Hospital probably doesn't pay nearly enough

Could have been an administrator that fields these calls.

Probably. But how much did they get paid to leak the info?

0, that's not a leak that just press asking how many people are expected to come to the hospital. Those are general answers they give. Depending on the scope of what is going on they will say basic things to the press.

They're generally not supposed to tell the press that info outside of an official announcement

every/any time there are mass casualties, the hospital directs inquiries to their public relations department.

Hospitals prepare for events that will trigger press inquiries.

Odd that a nurse was quoted.

I think their boss will see this as “an educational opportunity.”

Save You the Click Summary:

SUV, Derby Street Shops, Hingham

At least 5 injured

Article says there were dozens of first responders on the scene.

11a

If news outlets had to pay for the number of injuries in a mass casualty event, every media outlet would be broke by now.

What if the administrator, who handles the press releases and makes those judgements, is also a nurse.

Judging from Street View this person must have suddenly accelerated while mid-turn and not braked for some time.

Officials told South Shore Hospital to expect 7-10 people.

They sometimes keep informants on retainers

Terrorist?

What are the odds this is an elderly driver who thought the gas was the brake?

Update: one dead, 14 injured

Reports now say the vehicle was in the storage room behind the back wall of the storefront. So someone, from the bend in the plaza road, drove across 30 feet of an entrance plaza and through an entire store. Usually we see these kinds of crashes at the bottom of hills (like in Newton a few years ago) or when the storefront is right in front of a parking space. This was either a malicious act or a medical emergency.

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.176069,-70.9102754,3a,75y,82.75h,86.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smDbX8-MnARnUnRrBZNDABg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Certainly possible, accident is more likely though. We will have to wait and see

heard a rumor that it was a disgruntled employee. police have said it's a "criminal investigation". still have to wait and see if the rumor has any merit

Oftentimes you can estimate based on the number of ambulances on scene from the helicopter above.

Follow up reports have confirmed one person died so far and the amount injured is closer to 15

The really scary thing to think about is how much worse that would be if this happened on Friday this week instead of Monday.

The reason I maybe wouldn't assume it's outright malicious is just that, if someone really wanted to hurt as many people, you're doing this on Black Friday, not a relatively quiet Monday morning before it.

This is going to rock Hingham's world for sure. That plaza is so pristine... classical music playing all around the walkways.

Update: it was a disgruntled Apple store employee. The one death (so far) was another Apple store employee

Sometimes a malicious act isn't quite thought out.

Source or just talking out your ass?

Edit: Looking at your post history likely talking out your ass.

Okay wait and see :)

And I bet they still don’t take their license away because America loves death caused by drivers

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Definitely true.

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The SUV was travelling fast enough that it shot through the store and ended up in the storage area at the back and the driver was alert and did not need to be taken to a hospital. How could this happen? Road rage? Intentional?

Sure, make public transportation better and I'll sell my car no issue.

No car payments? No car insurance? Less traffic? Sign me up!

Give me some bullet trains and in a decade automatically driven car services to sign up for and I'll drop my car in a heartbeat.

Oh you mean guns. Here's something to think about - Cars serve multiple purposes and killing is not a primary purpose otherwise they'd have Madmax options when you buy a car and not auto emergency braking systems.

Guns have one purpose, to kill. It's a weapon not a mode of transportation.

But sure, continue with whatever that line of logic is despite being completely off topic / base from the article and tragedy that struck today to selfishly attempt to further your own political goals.

At that time of day, at Derby St, my guess is that it's an elderly person out shopping for the holidays who maybe doesn't drive much anymore.

I read that the death was a construction worker who had been working on some renovations there. Can’t find the article I read it in earlier tho!

I get the joke you're going for, but you know it's not gonna land in this sub.

I can back up the person who said it was disgruntled employee who was recently fired. I know someone who was on the left side that was okay. Anyone on the side of the phones however got mowed down. Awful.

What’s your grievance coming out as a projection?

It sounds like you’re an angry gun owner trying to be satirical. And I can’t tell what’s real lol. But fuck yea to this, fuck cars man. I’ll sell my car as soon as public transit is bussin’

I don't know many elderly people that drive 2019 Toyota 4 Runners, but of course, we don't know yet.

Driver could have had a seizure or lost consciousness some other way. We don’t have information yet.

They would have gone to the hospital in that case.

WCVB reported it I think

my, what a big need for attention you have.

The DA is treating it as a criminal act

The DA does and the DA says it is a criminal investigation.

I'm so sorry this wasn't about you bubby. Maybe next time.

It was an IT secutity guy working on renovations.

Lol, do you four have a butt-hurt club and you're trolling r/massachusetts for the lulz or something?

Keep going, you probably don't have anything better to do.

That Derby St Apple Store is way in the back of a busy complex and parking is a problem.

It’s a 4Runner so it probably hopped the curb, hopefully it was a innocent tragedy instead of something darker.

Blessings to the victims.

No idea why you're being downvoted. It seems as though it's under criminal investigation. An act like this is creating terror...

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I know! That said, word on the street is that it is a 53 yr old former employee who lives in Hingham. Not quite terrorism, but what a world we are living in! I am in the Derby St shops almost every day.

Wow, and the construction worker's dead. That's 1st degree murder.

yes, it would appear a lot of information has come out in the last 4 hours when I made this speculative comment.

What a really thoughtful nuanced take

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The deceased was an IT Professional.

I mean not to justify his anger but I was involved in a similar situation where an old lady drove through the store I was working at (not intentionally, she was just old AF) and she continued to keep her license after the fact because I saw her a week later with a new car.

It was either intentional or the person may have had a medical crisis like a seizure or heart attack while driving.

Maybe it was a test run.

Channel 7 said it was a 52/53 years old man. Twitter rumor has it as an ex-employee.

But the driver wasn’t taken to the hospital. Cruz said he was with police.

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Funny, pretty sure we have fairly strict laws around car use and are talking about adding more (i.e. retesting for elderly).

….I don’t think the store is going to be open in a few days

It's funny to me that you got absolutely smoked with downvotes for saying this, meanwhile multiple other people both here and r/boston are now getting upvotes for suggesting the same thing.

So sad 😢

Sorry. Boston.com has: "Late Monday afternoon, the Plymouth County District Attorney’s Office identified the deceased as 65-year-old Kevin Bradley of New Jersey. Bradley was there “supporting recent construction at the store".

Seemed more like the illucid ramblings of a drug addict than anything one could conventionally categorize as a "joke"

Replace "vehicles" with "guns" and you'll get it.

A joke is still a joke even if it's a bad one.

Muh freedom

I wholeheartedly agree!

It sounds like it was (E) intentionally used his car as a weapon

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The rumor is that it was a disgruntled former employee. Also that the DA has opened a criminal investigation.

Idk whether that counts as terrorism. It sounds like the guy “went postal”.

I lived in Hanover until three weeks ago. I went to Derby St all the time. The Apple Store always looks like its Friday. Don’t recall it ever not being super busy.

A coworker of mine's wife works in the area. I guess there was talk the driver was wearing a bulletproof vest. Not sure how accurate that info is.

Okay, well, do you think a deceased IT professional working on store upgrades wants you calling him, authoritatively, a construction worker. Apple isn't calling him that.

What precisely are you standing up for, and against, with this?

I'm offering information. Have you chosen to take that personally?

We are not arguing, there is no winning in this. fyi.

This store is always packed.

“We are devastated by the shocking events at Apple Derby Street todayand the tragic loss of a professional who was onsite supporting recentconstruction at the store."

Key word is investigation. As in we don’t have all the information yet.