Submitted by HRJafael t3_zao9xx in massachusetts
WinsingtonIII t1_iymz1py wrote
Reply to comment by MechanicalBirbs in Local hunters call for repeal of Massachusetts ban in Sunday hunting by HRJafael
Hunters get every other day of the week. I don't see what the big deal is, especially since hiking as a hobby doesn't inconvenience the general population whereas hunting as a hobby can impact other people trying to do outdoor activities. Pick a hobby that doesn't involve shooting at things with a deadly weapon, which has the potential to endanger other people, if you want free reign to do it whenever and wherever. Obviously a hobby that involves a weapon that can harm other people is going to be regulated more than walking in the woods.
Also what are you even talking about regarding two weeks? Deer shotgun season is relatively short but there are many other seasons. Various bird seasons span much of October and November (which is prime hiking weather around here), bear is most of September and November, things like bobcat and coyote are open basically all winter. There are other things like hare and other animals I'm not listing here that happen in parts of fall, spring, and winter. So it's definitely not just two weeks per year that this impacts people. It's months of the year, summer is the only time that isn't really impacted by hunting.
MechanicalBirbs t1_iymzkec wrote
You just don’t like hunting. That’s all. You aren’t arguing in good faith here and you ignored by point that most hunters can’t hunt in days they work.
You literally don’t care. Your entire logic is “if its bad for hunters, im for it”.
WinsingtonIII t1_iyn04p7 wrote
I'm neutral on hunting as an activity, I don't care if people hunt. But it's disingenuous to act like hunting is the same as other outdoor activities like hiking or mountain biking in terms of the potential danger it can pose to other people. Obviously most hunters are very responsible, but there is always the potential for something to go wrong when a weapon is involved that can kill at range and the hobby occurs in the woods where it can be hard to tell what you are seeing due to trees and undergrowth.
A hobby like that is going to get regulated more strictly than hobbies that do not involve weapons that can kill people and animals at range, even if by accident. And it seems fair to give people one day per weekend to be able to walk in the woods without worrying about those accidents occurring. But I get you disagree and that's fine.
vggzya13 t1_iypsneq wrote
How much do you pay per year for wildlands upkeep...
Wildwoodywoodpecker t1_iyyu1uv wrote
More hikers die from hiking every year than hikers that die from hunting. People get run over by cars too.
Seaworthiness222 t1_iyn15kn wrote
I was a hunter. I also had a friend who lost her elderly mom (in Massachusetts) when a hunter killed her while she was hanging out her laundry on her back porch. No punishment.
Dont be a fucking asshole who thinks it's the ONLY hobby.
I also like hiking. I like having a day where I can bring out my dogs in the woods in the yard without worrying if he gets shot by a hunter.
MechanicalBirbs t1_iyn29ed wrote
You can put in an orange vest for TWO sundays. Ffs.
Seaworthiness222 t1_iyn8lkm wrote
2 weeks? What are you talking about. Wait. Do you only hunt with a shotgun? Only deer?
There are like 8 months of hunting. You don't sound like you even hunt. WTF
Workacct1999 t1_iynkrzm wrote
You are also not arguing in good faith. You say that the hunting season is only two weeks long, but many other posters here are saying that your statement is misleading.
siwmasas t1_iyn5gx6 wrote
Exactly, there is no need to hunt here. Go buy a steak at market basket. Sport hunting should be outlawed here.
MechanicalBirbs t1_iyn6uja wrote
Factory farmed meat is way more unethical than hunting.
siwmasas t1_iyn7rej wrote
Absolutely, no argument from me there. But factory farms aren't going around the state shooting at whatever they deem shootable. That doesn't mean we should allow hunting for sport, nor does that mean I condone the treatment of animals in factory farms. Two wrongs don't make a right
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