Submitted by JBupp t3_zyy28d in massachusetts
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j28ynlm wrote
Reply to comment by SomeSortofDisaster in Boston man charged with bringing loaded gun to Logan Airport Terminal A security by JBupp
Like I said, so what were his crimes? All I see are victimless policy violations. 🤷
discoslimjim t1_j297e34 wrote
Shut up dude. You wanna sit next to a felon with a loaded gun on a plane?
BOSBoatMan t1_j299pjz wrote
I’m with you. Some people on here think this guy is the victim. I’d like to see his record I’m sure it is quite marvelous
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j297tkj wrote
Sure. Why wouldn't I? I'd have one too.
discoslimjim t1_j29afoc wrote
Oh cool. And if he drew the gun on you?
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29byln wrote
Haha, and why would he? Dude is just trying to go on a trip. Don't live your life afraid of the world. Draw on me. Hahahahaha. On a plane. Amazon.
discoslimjim t1_j29dvl0 wrote
Well he’s an unlicensed felon with a gun. Not the most predictable folks. Amazon.
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29e8w2 wrote
Again, he is unlicensed because of bullshit laws that shouldn't exist. Same reason he is a felon. Get rid of bogus anti gun laws and he is seemingly no more a criminal than you or I. Also, you don't think felons go on vacation? What's his plan in this scenario, stick up the plan passengers who he is stuck on the plane with for several more hours. 🙄
5teerPike t1_j29hm0e wrote
Why do felons need guns on vacation?
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29hqxv wrote
Same reason as everyone else I'd imagine.
5teerPike t1_j29i90s wrote
Everyone else isn't a repeat offending criminal.
That's not an answer.
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29ifpt wrote
Again his crime is victimless. Keep kneeling to the state. Daddy will keep on spanking you if you are a good boy.
5teerPike t1_j29ikn3 wrote
I don't need a gun to walk through life lol
5teerPike t1_j29ishk wrote
As per the article
"charged with his third offense of carrying a loaded firearm without a license, illegal possession of a firearm without a license with a prior violent offense"
It's not a victimless crime if it's a gun being carried by a person with a history of criminal violence.
His previous offense was not a victimless crime and it's why he's not allowed to have a gun.
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29kjry wrote
So, tell me, who exactly was the victim in this current arrest. I'll send them a card. And again "his third offense" doesn't mean anything when the law is immoral and spurious. 🤷.
5teerPike t1_j29ky9f wrote
Everyone who has a right to safety and to not sit next to an armed criminal with a history of violence.
But if you need a gun all the time is that what you're preparing for? Because then that would just be two criminals on a plane with guns.
BlaineTog t1_j29qho2 wrote
Once you've outted yourself as a violent asshole why won't follow the rules, it's reasonable to presume that you might get violent in the future. This warrants restrictions that wouldn't be in place for other people precisely to prevent future victims.
You're moving the goalposts on us here. Laws don't require a victim to be valid. Restraining orders, for example, could be argued as not technically having a victim since their aim is to prevent future crimes that haven't happened yet rather than punish past crimes. You're trying to pretend that that very simple and obvious type of legal restriction doesn't exist, while in fact it does.
ManWithTheCats t1_j29rrvj wrote
Ah, so I only need to follow laws that I agree with. Good to know 🙄
5teerPike t1_j29hj0m wrote
>don't live your life afraid of the world
So why do you need to have a gun with you on a plane if you're not?
5teerPike t1_j29hfwe wrote
See how far you'll get through an airport with one then.
iamspartacus5339 t1_j292vd9 wrote
Policy violation=crime when the policy is the federal government
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j2930x2 wrote
That's a terrible way to go through life. Free men and all that.
SugarSecure655 t1_j298gl8 wrote
What is wrong with following the law dude?
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j298nxy wrote
Nothing, as long as it's a moral and valid law. Requiring an LTC isn't either of those things.
5teerPike t1_j29huhi wrote
It's perfectly moral not to let former criminals who are repeat offenders to have the means to kill people efficiently.
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29i7v7 wrote
Hahahahaah. So now he is a murderer. Keep making those giant leaps Superman. Fear is a choice my dude.
5teerPike t1_j29igfl wrote
Fear is a choice? So why do you need a gun if you're not afraid?
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5teerPike t1_j29j9pz wrote
He was previously convicted for a violent crime.
Why do you need a gun if you're not afraid ? Seems like you're avoiding the question because I hit a nerve on that point.
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29k9c4 wrote
Hahaha. Hit what nerve? You asked a silly question thinking it's some kind of "gotcha" when it wasn't. Carrying a gun isn't about fear. It's about preparedness, same as a seat belt, and a fire extinguisher or smoke alarms in your house. I don't expect anyone to carry a gun that doesn't want to, it's weird you'd expect someone else not to. Let people be.
5teerPike t1_j29kqr4 wrote
I don't expect people with violent criminal records to be allowed to have guns. What are you preparing for that you need a gun all the time? Still sounds fearful to me.
What was he preparing for, The felon with the history of criminal violence?
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5teerPike t1_j29m273 wrote
What I'm doing is free speech right now. You're just mad nobody who is reasonable agrees with you.
He literally has a history of criminal violence, did you even read the article?
Why do you need a gun if you're not afraid
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29otwy wrote
I'm not mad at all. I'm having a conversation. The worst thing about the internet is everyone thinks everyone else is mad because of opposing views. You are a complete stranger. You have no ability to make me mad. I don't care if he is a violent criminal , if he is out of prison, he gets full access to his rights. That's how a free society should work. If he is too dangerous to have his rights, then they shouldn't have let him out. Now back to your repeated fake gotcha question , I already told you, same reason you'd use a seatbelt or fire extinguisher, just in case. Your working theory seems to be that just because I'm not walking around afraid, like you, then I am not aware that bad things can happen. And that's silly.
5teerPike t1_j29pl47 wrote
Lmfao you don't like it when I say you're, obviously, mad but you get to say I'm afraid. That's rich! I dont need a gun like you, so what are you preparing for that has you so afraid that you need a gun?
My working theory is that you're projecting. People with violent criminal histories don't get to have guns, why that bothers you is incredibly suspect.
I dont have a history of criminal violence, so if I want a gun I can have one. Sorry! You don't get to if you've been a violent piece of shit to people!
That you're more concerned with their "right" to have the means to kill people rather than the right to vote once they get out says a lot too!
SugarSecure655 t1_j29kcwc wrote
Well apparently the majority of people voted for it which as least makes it a valid law. I have no idea why you think it's immoral to obey the law just because you don't agree with it.
PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29p37l wrote
You think that there was a public vote on licenses to carry? I didn't say obeying the law is immoral. I said the law itself is immortal because it takes away ones rights.
iamspartacus5339 t1_j295kmh wrote
Well that’s what you get for living in America
SomeSortofDisaster t1_j290tu3 wrote
Victimless policy violation or not, he's been convicted of the same thing multiple times and knows what he's not allowed to do.
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