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JBupp OP t1_j28d22k wrote

>Lorenzo Beechman, 36, of Hyde Park, was held without bail, charged with his third offense of carrying a loaded firearm without a license, illegal possession of a firearm without a license with a prior violent offense, illegal possession of ammunition and airport security violations.

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SomeSortofDisaster t1_j28ygzm wrote

>third offense of carrying a loaded firearm without a license, illegal possession of a firearm without a license with a prior violent offense, illegal possession of ammunition and airport security violations

Carrying a firearm without a license (again), possession of a firearm without a license (again), illegal possession of ammunition, and various Logan or TSA-related rules around firearms and ammunition.

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Sloth_are_great t1_j291u9k wrote

Third times a charm. Maybe this time he’ll learn his lesson.

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RevengencerAlf t1_j298ahs wrote

The headline is technically accurate but also a bit misleading misleading. Bringing the gun to the airport isn't really what's getting him in trouble. The TSA confiscates weapons all the time to the point that their cringy social media presence memes about it trying to make themselves look like they're actually effective.

For a loaded gun you might still catch charges for it the real point here is that he's a multiple offender and didn't have a license for t he gun in the first place.

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PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29e8w2 wrote

Again, he is unlicensed because of bullshit laws that shouldn't exist. Same reason he is a felon. Get rid of bogus anti gun laws and he is seemingly no more a criminal than you or I. Also, you don't think felons go on vacation? What's his plan in this scenario, stick up the plan passengers who he is stuck on the plane with for several more hours. 🙄

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5teerPike t1_j29ishk wrote

As per the article

"charged with his third offense of carrying a loaded firearm without a license, illegal possession of a firearm without a license with a prior violent offense"

It's not a victimless crime if it's a gun being carried by a person with a history of criminal violence.

His previous offense was not a victimless crime and it's why he's not allowed to have a gun.

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PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29k9c4 wrote

Hahaha. Hit what nerve? You asked a silly question thinking it's some kind of "gotcha" when it wasn't. Carrying a gun isn't about fear. It's about preparedness, same as a seat belt, and a fire extinguisher or smoke alarms in your house. I don't expect anyone to carry a gun that doesn't want to, it's weird you'd expect someone else not to. Let people be.

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5teerPike t1_j29kqr4 wrote

I don't expect people with violent criminal records to be allowed to have guns. What are you preparing for that you need a gun all the time? Still sounds fearful to me.

What was he preparing for, The felon with the history of criminal violence?

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5teerPike t1_j29ky9f wrote

Everyone who has a right to safety and to not sit next to an armed criminal with a history of violence.

But if you need a gun all the time is that what you're preparing for? Because then that would just be two criminals on a plane with guns.

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5teerPike t1_j29m273 wrote

What I'm doing is free speech right now. You're just mad nobody who is reasonable agrees with you.

He literally has a history of criminal violence, did you even read the article?

Why do you need a gun if you're not afraid

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-_Stove_- t1_j29nw7e wrote

i think you are mistaking "Having a loaded weapon in the airport" vs "Bringing a gun to the airport". By bringing a firearm to Logan, he had to be in Mass, which requires an FID, and why he caught a few new charges. The title isn't misleading, it's quite accurate.

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PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29otwy wrote

I'm not mad at all. I'm having a conversation. The worst thing about the internet is everyone thinks everyone else is mad because of opposing views. You are a complete stranger. You have no ability to make me mad. I don't care if he is a violent criminal , if he is out of prison, he gets full access to his rights. That's how a free society should work. If he is too dangerous to have his rights, then they shouldn't have let him out. Now back to your repeated fake gotcha question , I already told you, same reason you'd use a seatbelt or fire extinguisher, just in case. Your working theory seems to be that just because I'm not walking around afraid, like you, then I am not aware that bad things can happen. And that's silly.

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5teerPike t1_j29pl47 wrote

Lmfao you don't like it when I say you're, obviously, mad but you get to say I'm afraid. That's rich! I dont need a gun like you, so what are you preparing for that has you so afraid that you need a gun?

My working theory is that you're projecting. People with violent criminal histories don't get to have guns, why that bothers you is incredibly suspect.

I dont have a history of criminal violence, so if I want a gun I can have one. Sorry! You don't get to if you've been a violent piece of shit to people!

That you're more concerned with their "right" to have the means to kill people rather than the right to vote once they get out says a lot too!

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RevengencerAlf t1_j29prql wrote

No I'm not mistaking anything. And you're just semantically restating the same thing.

As I said....

>the real point here is that he's a multiple offender and didn't have a license for the gun in the first place.

He's not really getting charged with "bringing a loaded gun into an airport" vs being charged for getting caught illegally possessing a firearm. It's not where he had it. It's that he had at all when he wasn't supposed to. If a person who is properly credentialed to carry a firearm walks into logan with it and casually puts it through security like did they're most likely just going to have it confiscated.

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BlaineTog t1_j29qho2 wrote

Once you've outted yourself as a violent asshole why won't follow the rules, it's reasonable to presume that you might get violent in the future. This warrants restrictions that wouldn't be in place for other people precisely to prevent future victims.

You're moving the goalposts on us here. Laws don't require a victim to be valid. Restraining orders, for example, could be argued as not technically having a victim since their aim is to prevent future crimes that haven't happened yet rather than punish past crimes. You're trying to pretend that that very simple and obvious type of legal restriction doesn't exist, while in fact it does.

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ReeceysRun t1_j29xyu0 wrote

“It’s my God given right!”

-this guy, probably

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j2a5zye wrote

Most of the shooters in our city are on their 3rd or 4th offense. Some of them are wearing ankle monitors when they do it!

Maybe violent people and people carrying tools of violence without the legal ability to do so should be held? Just a thought.

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