Submitted by Positive-Material t3_zseae9 in massachusetts
The people who have been interviewed on NPR today about it are naïve, and don't realize that non-profits almost always are run by people who secretly steal the money. Just yet another way for people with a psychopathy personality profile targeting people with a different personality profile to milk them for their donated money.
> non-profits almost always are run by people who secretly steal the money.
Please provide even one reputable source for this opinion. There are bad people out there running nonprofits for personal gain, but it is a vanishingly small number.
everyone who works in non profits says this.. also, the effective altruism hit all the signs of a cult.. they are also targeting higher income earners and people who have left over spending money - the nerdy tech students without kids or bills. if you know the personality profile of psychopaths and how these things work - you can recognize it. it is as old as time. these organizations spring up in different forms but they all follow the same steps.. it's just obvious.. if you need reputable citations - you are the sucker and the mark..
You do realize that for a 501(c) nonprofit to exist they have to disclose their financials? Go to Charity Navigator, they'll let you know if the breakdown looks like shit or is reasonable. Quit fear mongering over non-profits when it only takes 3 clicks or so to find out anything you'd need to know.
lol.. that a fig leaf.. they just do things like fake checks, kickback payments and on paper everything looks fine for the audit
Show me on the doll where the non-profit sector hurt you
Congratulations you can use Google search I'm proud of you.
You realize most people in non-profits who get caught with embezzlement are just quietly fired with no criminal charges and no media reporting.. so you just don't know about it.. and most embezzlement is done in a way that nobody will know about it.
You can say the same thing about the private sector dude, you got a source on that claim or are they only fake news when they disagree with you?
Glad to know I've taken up your mental space for the past five days though!
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trust me, nobody is embezzling in an Amazon warehouse - not talking about theft of packages though.. I bet people don't even get away with stealing paper clips there..
Oh got me with that one! Really blew my mind pointing out how a warehouse picker can't embezzle funds - really it's a shock seeing as they don't manage any money in a position with high turnover by design.
No I agree yo, I worked for several non-profits. The people on the top were always driving expensive cars and making dick moves, while the rest were impoverished.
Yes. Our CEO was in a yacht floating around on vacation and made a million dollars a year.. and it is a respected non profit in MA helping various vulnerable people groups.. I was noticing shady stuff by my manager, who behind closed doors was speaking very disrepesctfully about the vulnrable people we were supposed to be devoted to helping.. I Googled my manager's name, and it came up that they had an LLC supply house registered to their home address that had the same name as a local supply house and it said they made an estimated $100,000 a year - I put two and two together, and guessed (correctly) that they were writing fake checks to their own business (which said X Supply House Inc DBA My Managers Name) for supplies our company bought for the population we serve, but because the names were the same with a difference of one letter, nobody supposedly noticed.. I guessed that everyone in the office was in on it, with that person just doing the dirty work and being the fall guy if someone found out.. I reported it by email to the controller and CEO, and the CEO did not reply, and the controller forwarded my email to my boss..lol.. then my manager fired me.. so I reported them to the state, and then my manager and coworkers all got fired.. now my manager started a Pet Rescue non profit and is in charge of finding volunteers to build the non profit for them and volunteers to fundraise for them.. of course all the social workers at the bottom in the non profit were like super educated wonderful people living on peanuts..I was leaving my job in the non profit anyway, so I figured I would do a service to America and report the people who were likely (turned out correct) embezzling funds that were supposed to go the vulnerable population we were supposedly helping
You can dislike the effective altruism frame; I didn’t even comment on that and i have plenty of criticisms of it as well.
But part of your reasoning for why you dislike the frame, however, is clearly false. Again, you said:
> non-profits almost always are run by people who secretly steal the money.
Between 15-20% of workers in the state work for nonprofit employers. You’re saying almost all of these people work for crooks who are pocketing donations and have not a single statistic to back it up. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize the effective altruism framework, but this is not one of them.
Can you provide a link or some evidence to this? This sounds like your opinion without any back up.
I have a friend who is/was involved with them and this is not the impression I got when he told me about it. I’m far more likely to believe him than a random internet person.
Could you please provide the reason you made this post and how you came to the conclusion?
If a mainstream media company didnt cover it, its not real
The back story (as is typical for The New Yorker, it’s very well done deep dive but also a relatively long read compared to typical reddit posts):
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/the-reluctant-prophet-of-effective-altruism
thanks highschool kid for sound crazy
a lot of the leaders and followers in EA movement check off traits of people who are leaders and followers in cults, specifically their personality profiles.. like the followers of EA will be the groups psychopaths target because they have high incomes and extra money or can add credibility by just being extra followers, and the followers often have parents who have been in cults or we in churches that had cult tendencies..
I mean idk about the unsourced fraud claims but they’re a little pushy with the “donate your kidney” thing in a very cult like way.
ladybug1259 t1_j1862i5 wrote
Effective Altruism is a philosophy of targeting philanthropy to the issues and locations where it can make the most difference. It's not a cult. Most nonprofits are run by people who are doing it as a side gig ir, if they're doing it full time, are making much less money than they could be doing something else because they care. Are there some bad actors out there? Sure, there are in any industry but it's not most of them and it's not a cult.