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detective_bigfoot t1_j1dzxkz wrote

The concept of using violence to enforce laws is arguably inherently flawed in anarchist thought, but that’s beside the point, because the institution of policing was not made to enforce laws that actually help anyone, it was created to brutalize and persecute the underclasses. Don’t twist my words. It’s not the concept of law enforcement but rather the institution of the police which is inherently evil.

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BlaineTog t1_j1e3p0o wrote

> Don’t twist my words. It’s not the concept of law enforcement but rather the institution of the police which is inherently evil.

Friend, you're twisting your own words if you're trying to draw a distinction that fine. But we can call the people who show up when a civilian starts committing violence something other than, "police," if you want. We'll need state agents to act in that capacity regardless of what their department is named.

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warlocc_ t1_j1eh6mh wrote

The problem is twofold, I think. Besides the issues with police, another issue is our laws. Having police show up to enforce laws with violence is fine... Until the laws are stupid and not even preventing harm.

If you fly a toy plane in your own back yard without filling out the right paperwork, the same people that are expected to deal with violent criminals come to deal with you. Seems kind of broken.

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BlaineTog t1_j1ej21r wrote

Absolutely. Right now, we throw the police at basically every problem facing society as our first line of defense, and that's simply ridiculous. Most police officers never fire their guns on duty, so why do sending armed individuals trained mostly in the use of force to places where guns clearly aren't needed? Surely some percentage of those situations would be better handed by agencies staffed with unarmed professionals trained in the particulars. If the threat of violence is enough to keep the peace, then isn't it enough to know that attacking one of those agents might then summon the police? That would at least prevent the state actors from making split-second mistakes.

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