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Revolutionary-Toe789 t1_j073jis wrote

I could possibly just be living in ignorant bliss.

I think the country erred in giving fringe bad actors a little too much tolerance and “freedom” recently and am glad that it seems that right extremism was soundly defeated at the polls and people are predominantly against it.

I just don’t think it has gotten close to a critical mass to be a major concern for me.

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IFightPolarBears t1_j07korm wrote

>I think the country erred in giving fringe bad actors a little too much tolerance and “freedom” recently

Could you explain this further? What specifically do you mean?

>right extremism was soundly defeated at the polls and people are predominantly against it.

...? Gerrymandering has our country down to like 15 districts in the nation that flop back and forth where it matters. I get that young voters turned out. But like...hey friend. Millions voted for the crazies. Crazies don't stop being crazy when they don't get what they want lol they ratchet it up out of desperation.

After the GOP lost, has trump gotten more sane? Or is he having dinners with Nazis?

After the GOP got slapped at the polls, did they reflect on their weak turn out and course correct? Or double down and vow to investigate Biden at all costs?

>I just don’t think it has gotten close to a critical mass

What is critical mass? Like, how would you know when you saw it?

Is it terrorists being cheered on by the largest "news network"? As we saw with pelosi's hubby?

Roaming groups of brown shirts beating people up? As we saw with the proud boys?

I understand you don't think it's gotten to critical mass, but like, what does critical mass look like?

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Revolutionary-Toe789 t1_j07uvet wrote

Fringe bad actors: the armed poll protestors took to long to get removed. The rioters during covid protest. The crime being mostly ignored. Bad actors on both sides I feel have been let slide.

Both sides gerrymander, so I see it as a wash. Ebbs and flows which side “does it better”

Maybe, but remember the tea party? Kinda nuts. Fizzled out.

Trump seems to have changed for the worse. But he isn’t getting any support and everyone he supported lost. Let him be blowhard. Who cares. He will fade to obscurity.

I guess I would say that when people doing crazy shit are left to get away with it and I don’t see a push back from majority. I feel there is a strong pushback out there.

Did the brown boys beat many people up? I feel they were/are morons, but there are cameras on them most places and when they broke the laws they got arrested, didn’t they?

In the end, I think the country is too strong for any fringe group to takeover. I am slightly right of center (maybe not but I have lived in Mass and San Fran so it may just be perspective) and think both sides have crazy people. But to win elections and remain in power in a two party country, have to mostly stay moderate to get enough votes to win. And over time I do feel that center has gotten slightly more left leaning, in mostly good ways.

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IFightPolarBears t1_j0834pt wrote

>Both sides gerrymander

I mean, up until the last 2election cycles Dems were pushing for neutral gerrymanders that are fair. GOP took it to court and had it throw out a long with the protections for African Americans that came with it. Courts protected the gerrymander as is and then Dems hard committed to gerrymandering in order to not give ground for free. Dems now gerrymander as hard as republicans do because they had to in order to keep up with republicans.

I hard disagree that Dems gerrymandered as hard as the redwave software that was used in 2006+(maybe 2008, don't remember)

>Maybe, but remember the tea party? Kinda nuts. Fizzled out

They didn't fizzle out. First off, the tea party was funded by billionaires from conception to what it became was all funded by billionaires.

Once the tea party had enough people that the GOP was bending over for corporations, the funding for the tea party dried up. And they went away. But the refusal to touch corporate taxes had remained. The tea party was retired once it did it's job.

Billionaires were fine with funding lunatics as long as they protected they profits.

Look at Peter theil, he's a billionaire that during interviews has discussed America being better off not being democratic, how it should be "run like a business", supporting a strong authority takes control of all branches of government. He doesn't say he hopes it's him, but he does stop just short. But he's in favor of a dictator at the head of the US. He's currently the one dumping cash into the craziest of the GOP. Now the Senate has people talking about Jewish space laser, going to white nationalist conventions. There are currently enough lunatics in the Senate that they can dictate who the head of the GOP is. And they are negotiating currently about how much power they'll have. They are as we speak demanding they have the power to recall the speaker at any point, by any person. That just means the craziest representatives have that much more power.

>Trump seems to have changed for the worse. But he isn’t getting any support and everyone he supported lost. Let him be blowhard. Who cares. He will fade to obscurity.

Right. But this ain't about trump. It's about the authoritarian fascist leaning of the GOP. Trump clearly has authoritarian dreams. Happy the republicans are seeing it. But...who is 2nd? Desantis is being whispered everywhere.

Desantis is also a fucken authoritarian lol so like, good on the GOP for catching up. But they aren't learning a lesson. The lesson they learned was trump lost us elections, keep the fascist part, drop the trash. As far as I can tell. Right?

Desantis used the power of government to punish a company because he felt like it was the right move politically. He used the power of government to punish brown people he didn't want in his state. And it was cheered on.

Again. I ask you, of the list of fascist government tendencies, how many did the GOP tick off for you?

>Did the brown boys beat many people up? I feel they were/are morons, but there are cameras on them most places and when they broke the laws they got arrested, didn’t they?

They did sometimes. Other times they were not arrested at all even if they were on camera. They learned masks work.

>In the end, I think the country is too strong for any fringe group to takeover.

Why is America so special? Why were other countries unable to resist fascism?

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Revolutionary-Toe789 t1_j08507o wrote

Both sides do questionable shit. In mass when the gov is Republican and senator dies, they change law so gov can’t pick senator. I have no affiliation to either party, and don’t think they are all that different. Both are self serving.

I have no issue with people becoming rich. I think it’s great if you can amass a fortune by adding value to society. But who cares what one guy wants? He can have his opinion. Whatever. I’m sure there is a poor person who would also like to be king of America. What does that matter?

As I have stated I don’t really watch the news, so I didn’t see videos or read about the morons beating people up and not getting arrested. Entirely possible it happened. They should get arrested if they assaulted anyone. Just like anyone that assaulted them should get arrested.

I do think America is special. But I support a democratic and capitalist society. So, if nothing else, there is too much money here for fascism or socialism to take over, IMHO.

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IFightPolarBears t1_j08a7rx wrote

>I have no issue with people becoming rich

Neither do I.

But we've allowed rich people/corporations to dump unlimited money into our government. That alone is one of the most corrupting forces in government.

>cares what one guy wants? He can have his opinion.

Well, neo nazis do. Nazis want what that guy is paying for. He's literally paying for neo nazis to get into government.

>I’m sure there is a poor person who would also like to be king of America. What does that matter?

Poor person can't pay for his views to be made reality.

>So, if nothing else, there is too much money here for fascism or socialism to take over, IMHO.

This is what was said about WW1 being impossible to break out due to how much money was being made. Lol if you think fascists care about money I've got a Kanye to sell you.

Also both Hitler and Mussolini had their major corporations taking over by supporters. So the money never really stopped flowing.

Also lol @ socialism taking over. What's that look like?

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Revolutionary-Toe789 t1_j08cwda wrote

There isn’t much left so say.

I guess one of us will be shown right. Either country continues on as is for a while longer, or a fascist takes over.

Time will tell.

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